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golfer2b2000 Well Established Member

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I understand that the rule for hitting a ball out of bounds is that you tee up another ball and hit it which would be your 3rd shot. I was told that you no longer have to go back to the tee, but you are allowed to drop where you think that the ball went out. I would like some clarafication on this rule as to what your options are, and what penalty is assessed..

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https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-modernization/major-changes/golfs-new-rules-stroke-and-distance.html

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Last Sunday when Koepka lost his ball on the front nine, it looked like he dropped in the middle of the fairway instead of two club lengths from the rough.  

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1 hour ago, dennyjones said:

Last Sunday when Koepka lost his ball on the front nine, it looked like he dropped in the middle of the fairway instead of two club lengths from the rough.  

Then it must have been something else as the Local Rule is not in effect on the PGA Tour.

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2 hours ago, dennyjones said:

Last Sunday when Koepka lost his ball on the front nine, it looked like he dropped in the middle of the fairway instead of two club lengths from the rough.  

He had hit a provisional from the tee...

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Not sure if this was the instance being referred to on Hole #7
Shot tracker has him playing the following.

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Shot 6 in the hole

Shot 5 putt 26 ft 7 in., 9 in. to hole

Shot 4 131 yds to green, 27 ft 3 in. to hole

Shot 3 352 yds to right fairway, 139 yds to hole

Shot 2 Penalty

Shot 1 313 yds to tree outline, 184 yds to hole

 

 

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Rulesman Great Member

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14 hours ago, golfer2b2000 said:

I understand that the rule for hitting a ball out of bounds is that you tee up another ball and hit it which would be your 3rd shot.

It will in fact be your 4th shot.

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1 minute ago, Rulesman said:
  14 hours ago, golfer2b2000 said:

I understand that the rule for hitting a ball out of bounds is that you tee up another ball and hit it which would be your 3rd shot.

1 minute ago, Rulesman said:

It will in fact be your 4th shot.

How so?

Hit first shot OB

2nd shot is penalty stroke

3rd stroke is the tee shot

If you use the local rule and drop in the fairway then I believe you are hitting 4 from the fairway, but if you retee, that second tee shot is only your 3rd shot.

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21 minutes ago, Rulesman said:

It will in fact be your 4th shot.

@Rulesman, he was talking about stroke and distance, not the new Local Rule in that part.

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Rulesman Great Member

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1 hour ago, golfer2b2000 said:

I don't think so..If you hit your first ball out of bounds, stroke and distance should make your third shot from the tee I believe.

See post #11

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