New Irons Question

[Matt Maxey]

Hello all. Im currently gaming a set of ping G irons i hit the 7 iron 140-150. Im thinking about getting a new set (not because I need them) I will get fit for whatever I get. My question is with the ping G 710s in power spec can I expect them to be a club stronger say a 7 iron the same as my current 6 iron? My thinking is with the jacking of lofts the number at the bottom of the club doesn't matter what matters is how far you hit the ball. Am I on the right track or is there more nuances that I dont understand?

[Vinsk]

24 minutes ago, Matt Maxey said:

Hello all. Im currently gaming a set of ping G irons i hit the 7 iron 140-150. Im thinking about getting a new set (not because I need them) I will get fit for whatever I get. My question is with the ping G 710s in power spec can I expect them to be a club stronger say a 7 iron the same as my current 6 iron? My thinking is with the jacking of lofts the number at the bottom of the club doesn't matter what matters is how far you hit the ball. Am I on the right track or is there more nuances that I dont understand?

It’s not just jacking the lofts. New technology has changed the MOI, perimeter weighting, etc and in doing so change the dynamics ( launch angle for example) so they have to make a 7i with less loft to make it still act like a 7i as far as expected spin rate and ball flight ( height). But yes, knowing your distances with your clubs is the real focus without regard to the number in the club.

[Matt Maxey]

Thank you for the response. My issue is I believe I need the extra help in the top of the bag not necessary in the bottom where I have a much more reliable gap from 7-lob wedge. Right now I play with 5-9 then move to specialty wedges at 46° and those wedges are my most consistent clubs. I just don't want to screw up my 150 yard and in game trying to fix my 150 yard and out game.

[cooke119]

My suggestion would be to bring your current set of irons with you during the fitting and hit old club versus new to see what the changed are, see if you really are getting what you want from the new irons. Just a thought.

Wish I was in the market for a new set of irons, I loved the shopping and experience of searching out new clubs. But I just bought my Clevelands so....

[Matt Maxey]

That is what I was thinking 

[cnl390]

I am going for a fitting with G710's Friday morning and will be taking my G400's for comparison.  Will post the results. 

[Piz]

Make a conscious effort to be objective.  It is a lot easier to buy something you want than it is to get rid of something you do not.

[Missouri Swede]

27 minutes ago, cnl390 said:

I am going for a fitting with G710's Friday morning and will be taking my G400's for comparison.  Will post the results. 

It will be interesting to see what you find.  When I got my current set of irons, I demoed the G700 irons and liked them.  I went in for a fitting that included other brands as well as the G400 irons (same as yours now).  My distance was a little shorter with the G400s but dispersion was better, so that's what I went with.

Have fun!

[cnl390]

Here are the results of this mornings fitting......

 

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This is better than the .pdf files.

[billchao]

1 hour ago, cnl390 said:

Here are the results of this mornings fitting......

 

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This is better than the .pdf files.

What shaft are you playing in your G400 versus the others? Also what is face impact and why does it look like you’re hitting it off the toe with the first club?

[cnl390]

I was playing the Ping Graphite shaft.  As far as face impact, I am not sure.  After hitting a few it was noticed that I was closing the club face a bit on the down swing.  I tried to correct that on subsequent swings..   

[ChetlovesMer]

On 2/27/2020 at 7:27 AM, Matt Maxey said:

Thank you for the response. My issue is I believe I need the extra help in the top of the bag not necessary in the bottom where I have a much more reliable gap from 7-lob wedge. Right now I play with 5-9 then move to specialty wedges at 46° and those wedges are my most consistent clubs. I just don't want to screw up my 150 yard and in game trying to fix my 150 yard and out game.

This may be dumb. But have you considered just adding a hybrid or two? 

When my game is at its best I play 4 - GW irons.
When my game gets a little shaky I actually pull the 4 iron and replace it with 2 hybrids. (19 degree and a 22.5 degree)

Just a thought.

Good luck. 

[cnl390]

8 minutes ago, ChetlovesMer said:

This may be dumb. But have you considered just adding a hybrid or two? 

When my game is at its best I play 4 - GW irons.
When my game gets a little shaky I actually pull the 4 iron and replace it with 2 hybrids. (19 degree and a 22.5 degree)

Just a thought.

Good luck. 

I currently play a G410 3h & 5h, and love them.

[Matt Maxey]

1 hour ago, ChetlovesMer said:

This may be dumb. But have you considered just adding a hybrid or two? 

When my game is at its best I play 4 - GW irons.
When my game gets a little shaky I actually pull the 4 iron and replace it with 2 hybrids. (19 degree and a 22.5 degree)

Just a thought.

Good luck. 

I currently play with a 4 hybrid (tour edge platinum) but I have a hard time getting it in the air off the deck the only reason its still in the bag is because it works great off a tee and at my home course there are a couple tricky little par 4s and a par 3 I use it off the tee box. That is probably more of a practice problem more then a fitting problem. Ive come to the conclusion that when I go for a fitting (be later in the season I want to be hitting the ball in mid-season form) Im gonna take my whole bag and whatever the ° of loft the club they have me hit Ill compare the club I currently play that matches closest regardless of the number on the bottom of the club. I understand the concept of lower center of gravity making the ball launch higher. I just dont want a situation where I have a half club gap going into the wedges I currently play. If that makes scenes. But you are correct I need to figure out the top of my bag now that I have the bottom set (for now lol)

[cnl390]

1 hour ago, Matt Maxey said:

I currently play with a 4 hybrid (tour edge platinum) but I have a hard time getting it in the air off the deck the only reason its still in the bag is because it works great off a tee and at my home course there are a couple tricky little par 4s and a par 3 I use it off the tee box. That is probably more of a practice problem more then a fitting problem. Ive come to the conclusion that when I go for a fitting (be later in the season I want to be hitting the ball in mid-season form) Im gonna take my whole bag and whatever the ° of loft the club they have me hit Ill compare the club I currently play that matches closest regardless of the number on the bottom of the club. I understand the concept of lower center of gravity making the ball launch higher. I just dont want a situation where I have a half club gap going into the wedges I currently play. If that makes scenes. But you are correct I need to figure out the top of my bag now that I have the bottom set (for now lol)

I had given up on my hybrids. Then my pro, David Ogrin, showed me how to use them.  I believe he has a video on this. Not sure of the exact web location.  But it's one of the videos at Golf Channel Academy. 

[Matt Maxey]

Thank you I'll definitely do some google searching

[cnl390]

5 minutes ago, Matt Maxey said:

Thank you I'll definitely do some google searching

Ogrin: Never top your fairway woods