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Golf.com posted an article about a month ago outlining DeChambeau speed training formula.

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GOLF's playing editor Bryson DeChambeau explains a six-step program to add 12 mph of swing speed, a gear tweak to hole more putts, and more.

 

The formula is:

1. Hit a normal drive and record the ball speed. This is your baseline. 
2. Hit balls rapid-fire until you hit a ball 10 mph above baseline. 
3. Drop to and maintain 5 mph above your previous baseline. This is your second ball-speed baseline. 
4. When you’re ready, ramp up until you hit 8 mph above your second baseline. 
5. Drop down to and maintain 3 mph above your second baseline. This is your third baseline. 
6. Push an extra 2 mph from your third baseline. 
If you do all this, you’ll have just gained 12 mph of ball speed. Time to relax!

Alex Etches (youtuber) has posted a video of him executing the formula.

Hold onto your seat as you watch him achieve his personal bests (on trackman, indoors)

 

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Interesting.  More than anything else, this training requires you to have a trackman.  I wonder how you do this without equipment like that.  Need to watch the youtube video to see if there are suggestions for that

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5 minutes ago, pganapathy said:

More than anything else, this training requires you to have a trackman.

There are $200 radar devices.

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7 minutes ago, pganapathy said:

Interesting.  More than anything else, this training requires you to have a trackman.  I wonder how you do this without equipment like that.  Need to watch the youtube video to see if there are suggestions for that

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There are plenty of suggestions for low(er) cost devices to read swing speed (indoors or outdoors).  The two I am familiar with are Sports Sensors Swing Speed Radar and PRGR model hs-120a.

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Looks like he is using club head speed, not ball speed, so I guess this could be done with just a simple radar device.

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33 minutes ago, Darkfrog said:

Looks like he is using club head speed, not ball speed, so I guess this could be done with just a simple radar device.

PRGR measures ball speed and club head for <$200.

Mevo can for $450.

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1 hour ago, MiuraMan said:

Golf.com posted an article about a month ago outlining DeChambeau speed training formula.

Hafer_BRYSON_SpeedTraining_Dallas-0898yu

GOLF's playing editor Bryson DeChambeau explains a six-step program to add 12 mph of swing speed, a gear tweak to hole more putts, and more.

 

The formula is:

1. Hit a normal drive and record the ball speed. This is your baseline. 
2. Hit balls rapid-fire until you hit a ball 10 mph above baseline. 
3. Drop to and maintain 5 mph above your previous baseline. This is your second ball-speed baseline. 
4. When you’re ready, ramp up until you hit 8 mph above your second baseline. 
5. Drop down to and maintain 3 mph above your second baseline. This is your third baseline. 
6. Push an extra 2 mph from your third baseline. 
If you do all this, you’ll have just gained 12 mph of ball speed. Time to relax!

Alex Etches (youtuber) has posted a video of him executing the formula.

Hold onto your seat as you watch him achieve his personal bests (on trackman, indoors)

 

Interesting way to track and work on improvement. Thanks for posting.

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48 minutes ago, iacas said:

PRGR measures ball speed and club head for <$200.

Mevo can for $450.

Yeah - I didn't read the article, just watched the video with no sound, and the youtube guy seemed to be focusing on club speed, so I was thinking maybe it could be done with the cheaper Sports Sensors SSR device. Maybe he was talking about ball speed too while showing the club speed data.

The article says ball speed is the metric Bryson uses, so to do it that way you'd need something a little more advanced than the cheap radar device. I wonder if using club speed like the youtube guy vs. ball speed like Bryron can achieve similar result.

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On 5/25/2021 at 10:28 AM, Darkfrog said:

I wonder if using club speed like the youtube guy vs. ball speed like Bryron can achieve similar result.

The only thing ball speed really adds as a measure is contact quality so probably?


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On 5/25/2021 at 8:15 AM, MiuraMan said:

The formula is:

1. Hit a normal drive and record the ball speed. This is your baseline. 
2. Hit balls rapid-fire until you hit a ball 10 mph above baseline. 
3. Drop to and maintain 5 mph above your previous baseline. This is your second ball-speed baseline. 
4. When you’re ready, ramp up until you hit 8 mph above your second baseline. 
5. Drop down to and maintain 3 mph above your second baseline. This is your third baseline. 
6. Push an extra 2 mph from your third baseline. 
If you do all this, you’ll have just gained 12 mph of ball speed. Time to relax!

The more I think about this the more I feel like it epitomizes BDC and the problems people can have with him. It sounds like something special but conceptually it is not really that unique (push boundary, back off to reset, push boundary more etc) and it does not seem very thoroughly detailed or thought through.

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7 hours ago, measureoffsetinnm said:

The more I think about this the more I feel like it epitomizes BDC and the problems people can have with him. It sounds like something special but conceptually it is not really that unique (push boundary, back off to reset, push boundary more etc) and it does not seem very thoroughly detailed or thought through.

Who has made the claim that this is something "special"? 

In one sentence you say - "conceptually it is not really that unique"; but later say "does not seem very thoroughly detailed or thought through"; when you claim something is not unique, that implies lots of other people are doing something very similar; so it must be "detailed" enough - right?

There are a number of you tube videos of Bryson working with amateur golfers using this particular version of "speed training".

Granted there is a variety of "speed training" protocols available to golfers to choose from - pick what works for you and does no harm to yourself.

 


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5 hours ago, MiuraMan said:

Who has made the claim that this is something "special"? 

In one sentence you say - "conceptually it is not really that unique"; but later say "does not seem very thoroughly detailed or thought through"; when you claim something is not unique, that implies lots of other people are doing something very similar; so it must be "detailed" enough - right?

There are a number of you tube videos of Bryson working with amateur golfers using this particular version of "speed training".

Granted there is a variety of "speed training" protocols available to golfers to choose from - pick what works for you and does no harm to yourself.

 

When it is presented as "Bryson's Speed Training" and BDC has the reputation he does I think the impression is unavoidable. The comment was as much to do with how people view BDC as BDC himself. I think he deserves some criticism for being overboard and what I read about responding to a genuine question by thanking sponsors rather than providing a thoughtful answer was a little problematic but I am far from a hater. Agree completely with your last paragraph.


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