Maraging Steel Face on Forged Iron?

[UKWYLDCAT]

I am interested in buying the Gen 2 PXG forged irons, but why do they put Maraging steel face on a forged iron? Doesn’t that negatively affect the feel of a forged iron? I want the “soft as buy” feel….will a maraging face ruin that?  Thanks. 

Edited July 17, 2021 by UKWYLDCAT
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[tinker]

A real forged iron is smashed into shape from a billet of carbon steel. Pxg’s are hollow. They press the back into a shape and weld on a mar aging face then fill with foam. That’s throwing around the word” forged” because it sells.

[Vinsk]

  On 7/17/2021 at 1:37 PM, UKWYLDCAT said:

I am interested in buying the Gen 2 PXG forged irons, but why do they put Maraging steel face on a forged iron? Doesn’t that negatively affect the feel of a forged iron? I want the “soft as buy” feel….will a maraging face ruin that?  Thanks. 

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PXG offers a great experience when you want to hit them. I have a set of Gen3 and the DualCore irons. The Gen3 is pretty soft feeling. Not like Mizuno but very nice. The DualCore irons have a nice feel despite not being buttery.

[colin007]

Honestly, I doubt you can feel the difference between forged and cast, all else being the same. 

[boogielicious]

  On 7/18/2021 at 3:57 PM, colin007 said:

Honestly, I doubt you can feel the difference between forged and cast, all else being the same. 

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Some of the hollow head irons feel different, like the AP1 vs AP2 or my CB. They have a springier feel.

[colin007]

  On 7/18/2021 at 4:24 PM, boogielicious said:

Some of the hollow head irons feel different, like the AP1 vs AP2 or my CB. They have a springier feel.

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Oh for sure.

I'm saying, forge and cast two identical heads, you can't tell the difference

[Typhoon92]

Oh God yes you can tell the difference.  Feel in clubs is related to sound.  I have a set of Nike Vapor Pro Forged irons.  They are a one piece forging.  During my club fittings I have hit hollow headed irons such as the Ping i500.  Very clicky sound which transmits the feeling of a non solid one piece clubhead to your hands.

The hollow heads that say “forged” are a hollow forged body yes… but not a forged “club” because the face is not part of the forging.  The face is welded on separately.

The hollow heads filled with foam come closer to a better feel than the hollow ones with nothing in them for sure.  You want a good comparison test?  Go to an indoor place with a high ceiling and hit real forged vs hollow body “forged”

[ChetlovesMer]

  On 7/23/2021 at 11:49 AM, Typhoon92 said:

Oh God yes you can tell the difference.  Feel in clubs is related to sound.  I have a set of Nike Vapor Pro Forged irons.  They are a one piece forging.  During my club fittings I have hit hollow headed irons such as the Ping i500.  Very clicky sound which transmits the feeling of a non solid one piece clubhead to your hands.

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Sound is a very personal thing. I have terrible hearing so the "feel" of different clubs for me is a lot more similar. It has to be a big variant for me to pick up the difference. Having said that, what you wrote above is exactly true. 

 

  On 7/23/2021 at 11:49 AM, Typhoon92 said:

The hollow heads that say “forged” are a hollow forged body yes… but not a forged “club” because the face is not part of the forging.  The face is welded on separately.

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Sometimes the body is "forged" and the face is welded on separately. A lot of times the face is "forged" and welded to a cast body. Unfortunately stamping the word "forged" on a club these days doesn't really mean what it used to mean. 

  On 7/23/2021 at 11:49 AM, Typhoon92 said:

The hollow heads filled with foam come closer to a better feel than the hollow ones with nothing in them for sure.  You want a good comparison test?  Go to an indoor place with a high ceiling and hit real forged vs hollow body “forged”

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The foam does help. For my "tin ears" it makes it difficult for me to tell the difference. But I know that more discerning folks can still "feel" the difference. A lot of folks don't realize how important sound is to the feel of clubs. I have a friend whose son works for Cleveland/Srixon as a sound engineer. It sounds like (no pun intended) a pretty cool job. And a surprisingly important one. 

[denkea]

A forged body allows a club head to be adjusted easier for loft and lie.  

[ncates00]

  On 7/23/2021 at 11:49 AM, Typhoon92 said:

foam

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  On 7/23/2021 at 12:28 PM, ChetlovesMer said:

The foam does help.

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I’m not a big fan of the TM foam. I have a gapr hybrid lying around in the garage. I could hit it pretty well, but I never liked the sound or feel of it. It didn’t “match” to the strike, IMO. 
 

However, I think I like the feel of tungsten. I haven’t used another manufacturer’s clubs that have tungsten in them, but I have a Titleist u510 driving iron, and I absolutely love it. It’s hard to describe the feeling of the club. I thought it would be very clicky because it’s a gigantic hollow headed iron. There is a higher pitched sound, but it still has a “thwack” to it without feeling dead like the foam-injected hybrid I mentioned. It’s very subjective and hard for me to describe. Hopefully, it makes sense to some degree.