Maraging Steel Face on Forged Iron?

[UKWYLDCAT]

I am interested in buying the Gen 2 PXG forged irons, but why do they put Maraging steel face on a forged iron? Doesn’t that negatively affect the feel of a forged iron? I want the “soft as buy” feel….will a maraging face ruin that?  Thanks. 

Edited July 17, 2021 by UKWYLDCAT
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[tinker]

A real forged iron is smashed into shape from a billet of carbon steel. Pxg’s are hollow. They press the back into a shape and weld on a mar aging face then fill with foam. That’s throwing around the word” forged” because it sells.

[Vinsk]

23 hours ago, UKWYLDCAT said:

I am interested in buying the Gen 2 PXG forged irons, but why do they put Maraging steel face on a forged iron? Doesn’t that negatively affect the feel of a forged iron? I want the “soft as buy” feel….will a maraging face ruin that?  Thanks. 

PXG offers a great experience when you want to hit them. I have a set of Gen3 and the DualCore irons. The Gen3 is pretty soft feeling. Not like Mizuno but very nice. The DualCore irons have a nice feel despite not being buttery.

[colin007]

Honestly, I doubt you can feel the difference between forged and cast, all else being the same. 

[boogielicious]

25 minutes ago, colin007 said:

Honestly, I doubt you can feel the difference between forged and cast, all else being the same. 

Some of the hollow head irons feel different, like the AP1 vs AP2 or my CB. They have a springier feel.

[colin007]

2 hours ago, boogielicious said:

Some of the hollow head irons feel different, like the AP1 vs AP2 or my CB. They have a springier feel.

Oh for sure.

I'm saying, forge and cast two identical heads, you can't tell the difference

[Typhoon92]

Oh God yes you can tell the difference.  Feel in clubs is related to sound.  I have a set of Nike Vapor Pro Forged irons.  They are a one piece forging.  During my club fittings I have hit hollow headed irons such as the Ping i500.  Very clicky sound which transmits the feeling of a non solid one piece clubhead to your hands.

The hollow heads that say “forged” are a hollow forged body yes… but not a forged “club” because the face is not part of the forging.  The face is welded on separately.

The hollow heads filled with foam come closer to a better feel than the hollow ones with nothing in them for sure.  You want a good comparison test?  Go to an indoor place with a high ceiling and hit real forged vs hollow body “forged”

[ChetlovesMer]

30 minutes ago, Typhoon92 said:

Oh God yes you can tell the difference.  Feel in clubs is related to sound.  I have a set of Nike Vapor Pro Forged irons.  They are a one piece forging.  During my club fittings I have hit hollow headed irons such as the Ping i500.  Very clicky sound which transmits the feeling of a non solid one piece clubhead to your hands.

Sound is a very personal thing. I have terrible hearing so the "feel" of different clubs for me is a lot more similar. It has to be a big variant for me to pick up the difference. Having said that, what you wrote above is exactly true. 

 

33 minutes ago, Typhoon92 said:

The hollow heads that say “forged” are a hollow forged body yes… but not a forged “club” because the face is not part of the forging.  The face is welded on separately.

Sometimes the body is "forged" and the face is welded on separately. A lot of times the face is "forged" and welded to a cast body. Unfortunately stamping the word "forged" on a club these days doesn't really mean what it used to mean. 

35 minutes ago, Typhoon92 said:

The hollow heads filled with foam come closer to a better feel than the hollow ones with nothing in them for sure.  You want a good comparison test?  Go to an indoor place with a high ceiling and hit real forged vs hollow body “forged”

The foam does help. For my "tin ears" it makes it difficult for me to tell the difference. But I know that more discerning folks can still "feel" the difference. A lot of folks don't realize how important sound is to the feel of clubs. I have a friend whose son works for Cleveland/Srixon as a sound engineer. It sounds like (no pun intended) a pretty cool job. And a surprisingly important one. 

[denkea]

A forged body allows a club head to be adjusted easier for loft and lie.  

[ncates00]

On 7/23/2021 at 7:49 AM, Typhoon92 said:

foam

 

On 7/23/2021 at 8:28 AM, ChetlovesMer said:

The foam does help.

I’m not a big fan of the TM foam. I have a gapr hybrid lying around in the garage. I could hit it pretty well, but I never liked the sound or feel of it. It didn’t “match” to the strike, IMO. 
 

However, I think I like the feel of tungsten. I haven’t used another manufacturer’s clubs that have tungsten in them, but I have a Titleist u510 driving iron, and I absolutely love it. It’s hard to describe the feeling of the club. I thought it would be very clicky because it’s a gigantic hollow headed iron. There is a higher pitched sound, but it still has a “thwack” to it without feeling dead like the foam-injected hybrid I mentioned. It’s very subjective and hard for me to describe. Hopefully, it makes sense to some degree.