Are There Any Downsides to the 'Fleetwood Finish'?

[bking]

On 12/3/2021 at 8:56 AM, Vinsk said:

I would say momentum? If you were sitting on the hood of a car going 50mph and the car hit a wall you’d hit the wall at 50mph. But if the car slammed it’s brakes ( assuming almost complete stoppage) you’d actually accelerate a bit and hit the wall faster?

I'm gonna have to call "no" on that. Been a while since College Physics, but I don't see how you would accelerate in that 2nd scenario.

[Big Lex]

Could "slamming on the brakes" increase club head speed by changing the kinematic sequence? If you're sitting in a car going 60 and you slow down gradually, you don't feel all that much. But slam on the brakes, and you are pushed forward against the seat belt. 

[GolfLug]

I am not sure if it's a downside per se, but from what I understand if you don't pinch it pretty good, you might not stop it quickly enough, as it is a lower spin shot to begin with and typically a flatter trajectory.

But I think think it's an awesome iron shot. If Im not wrong Tiger broke the back of an entire generation of golfers with trajectory control.

[billchao]

The 3/4 finish is from a 3/4 swing. He’s just taking something off his swing for control. It’s not unique to him nor does he do it all the time.

 

[colin007]

1 hour ago, GolfLug said:

 Tiger broke the back of an entire generation of golfers with trajectory control.

Traj and reps, baby! Traj and reps...

[Bob M]

48 minutes ago, billchao said:

The 3/4 finish is from a 3/4 swing. He’s just taking something off his swing for control. It’s not unique to him nor does he do it all the time.

 

What a swing! I like the 3/4 approach with irons for me for control reasons. Although I'm a pretty short hitter, I'd be happy to lose a few yards in exchange for more control with my irons and wedges. 

[iacas]

4 hours ago, Bob M said:

He is considered one of the better iron players in the game today…

Is he though?

• 64th in 2022: https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.02568.y2022.html
• 97th in 2021: https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.02568.y2021.html
• 165th in 2020: https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.02568.y2020.html

I'd say that's a no.

2 hours ago, Big Lex said:

Could "slamming on the brakes" increase club head speed by changing the kinematic sequence?

Possibly. But…

2 hours ago, Big Lex said:

If you're sitting in a car going 60 and you slow down gradually, you don't feel all that much. But slam on the brakes, and you are pushed forward against the seat belt. 

That's not a good analogy at all.

56 minutes ago, billchao said:

The 3/4 finish is from a 3/4 swing. He’s just taking something off his swing for control. It’s not unique to him nor does he do it all the time.

Right. This.

[boogielicious]

14 minutes ago, iacas said:

Is he though?

• 64th in 2022: https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.02568.y2022.html
• 97th in 2021: https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.02568.y2021.html
• 165th in 2020: https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.02568.y2020.html

I'd say that's a no.

I think Bob is referring to the talking heads we have to listen to watching golf. Of course they tend to say that about every player. I think he’s just average.

[Bob M]

12 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

I think Bob is referring to the talking heads we have to listen to watching golf. Of course they tend to say that about every player. I think he’s just average.

Wow tough crowd 😀. @boogielicious is correct however that the talking heads had an influence on my opinion (the meandmygolf guys really salivated). I do note however, that being 64th in "Approach the Green" puts him ahead of roughly 2/3s of the other players on the PGA Tour for 2022 which isn't too shabby. 

The original question, however, was whether the cut off finish Fleetwood frequently uses with irons has a downside and to reading the previous entries in this thread it doesn't appear so. Am I missing anything? 

[boogielicious]

2 hours ago, Bob M said:

Wow tough crowd 😀. @boogielicious is correct however that the talking heads had an influence on my opinion (the meandmygolf guys really salivated). I do note however, that being 64th in "Approach the Green" puts him ahead of roughly 2/3s of the other players on the PGA Tour for 2022 which isn't too shabby. 

The original question, however, was whether the cut off finish Fleetwood frequently uses with irons has a downside and to reading the previous entries in this thread it doesn't appear so. Am I missing anything? 

I’ve used it as part of a drill. It does give you a certain feel of extending after impact, which is helpful. I will also add that for we older folks that don’t have a lot of flexibility, the full finish position is a bit of a challenge. So this finish can help. Some of the guys on the Champions Tour finish this way.