StuM November 6, 2023 #19 Report November 6, 2023 Good Company, Pace of Play & Good conditions I had a hard time narrowing to three & priority. βValueβ was easily last, not that I do not mind getting a good value but when I think of my βMemoriesβ it never has to do with getting a good deal. I really like good architecture and wanted to select that but since bad company, bad conditions & bad pace could make even a magnificent architecture a miserable round I dropped it. The 3 selected are all equally important but I settled on Good Company as #1 since that can at least make slow pace & bad conditions a little tolerable. Slow Pace is miserable to me and can ruin a round even on a great course. for βConditionsβ i am thinking only if the condition of the course, not weather. If I play a poorly maintained course I will likely never return. Stuart M. I am a "SCRATCH GOLFER". I hit ball, Ball hits Tree, I scratch my head. π Driver: Ping G410 Plus 10.5* +1* / 3 Hybrid: Cleveland HIBORE XLS / 4,5 & 6 Hybrids: Mizuno JP FLI-HI / Irons/Wedges 7-8-9-P-G: Mizuno JPX800 HD / Sand Wedge: Mizuno JPX 800 / Lob Wedge: Cleveland CBX 60* / Putter: Odyssey White Hot OG 7S / Balls: Srixon Soft / Beer: Labatt Blue (or anything nice & cold) Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
Ty_Webb November 8, 2023 #20 Report November 8, 2023 Difficult question - I went with good conditions, good architecture and good pace of play. I got to play at Merion 25 years ago and they had just punched the greens the day before we played. Still bugs me now, so I have to go with good conditions. I don't want to play in a field that someone has cut some greens on, so good architecture is important to me. And I hate slow play (less so now than I used to - public golf in the US means getting used to slow play). I viewed good company as not vital - it's definitely nice when that happens, but I'm also pretty happy with my own company, so I'll just keep my distance if I don't like them. Good value certainly helps, but I'd definitely pay more to play better designed and better conditioned courses, so again doesn't make the cut. Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
phan52 January 4, 2024 #21 Report January 4, 2024 Condition/pace/group. Golf is an expensive game, but I don't mind paying for it as long as those three things are in play. I do appreciate courses with classic architecture, and I have been lucky to play a lot of classic courses in the US and abroad, but I will play the local muni as long as it is good shape. Bill M Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
mdl January 4, 2024 #22 Report January 4, 2024 All of these dimensions have a line over which they overwhelm the others. Like, I wouldn't play an 8 hour round at the old course. In answering I assumed that all of them were in the not great to awesome range, with none in OMG this is horrible territory. Given that... Condition/architecture/company My main struggle was architecture versus pace. I made the call by thinking about the fact that I don't have any notable golf memories of blah courses with great pace. But I do have ones with excellent to world class architecture and some waits for fairways and greens to clear. MattMid-Weight Heavy PutterCleveland Tour Action 60ΛCleveland CG15 54ΛNike Vapor Pro Combo, 4i-GWTitleist 585h 19ΛTour Edge Exotics XCG 15Λ 3 WoodTaylormade R7 Quad 9.5Λ Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
Moderator woodzie264 January 5, 2024 Moderator #23 Report January 5, 2024 Conditions and pace of play make or break the round when grading it as being enjoyable. The Company makes it memorable. Great company can also help make up for a less than desirable pace or set of conditions. Driver: Rogue ST / Woods: Stealth 5W / Hybrid: Stealth 25* / Irons: i500βs / Wedges: 54*, 58*; Putter: Futura 5 Ball: Vero X1 -Jonny Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
Moderator DaveP043 January 5, 2024 Moderator #24 Report January 5, 2024 On 1/4/2024 at 9:21 PM, mdl said: I wouldn't play an 8 hour round at the old course. Expand You're right, you wouldn't, you'd be removed from the course long before that. I know its just an example, but of all the places I've played, that's one where the staff (along with the caddies) makes sure that you move along at a reasonable pace. Dave Rogue SubZero Driver 915F 15 Fairway, 816 H1 19 Hybrid, AP2 4 iron to PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60 wedges, ProV1 balls G5i putter, B60 version Hoofer Bag, complete with Newport Cup logo, , and Ashworth shoes the only thing wrong with this car is the nut behind the wheel. Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
TourSpoon January 5, 2024 #25 Report January 5, 2024 1. Good company - luckily I have a lot of people to play golf with and its not that hard to find. But nothing is worse than playing with bad company. 2. Pace of play - This can really get me if its too slow. I don't necessarily rush, but an average 4some at my club can play their matches in 3:45-4:00. Occasionally we do 3somes in 3:30 or less, but the 4 hour mark makes for the pace not to be an issue especially at a resort course. 3. Conditions - I like decent greens. I can accept some other places being unkept, but the greens really can make or break it for me. Cobra LTDx 10.5* | Rad Tour 16.5* | Dark Speed 21* | Titleist U500 4i | T100 5-P | Vokey SM10 50/8* F, 54/10* S, 58/10* S | Scotty Cameron Squareback 1 | Vice Pro+
mdl January 5, 2024 #26 Report January 5, 2024 On 1/5/2024 at 1:43 PM, DaveP043 said: You're right, you wouldn't, you'd be removed from the course long before that. I know its just an example, but of all the places I've played, that's one where the staff (along with the caddies) makes sure that you move along at a reasonable pace. Expand Ha. Well that's good to hear I just meant, if pace of play were at 8 hours I wouldn't play even like a lifetime dream course like the old course! On 1/5/2024 at 2:21 PM, TourSpoon said: 1. Good company - luckily I have a lot of people to play golf with and its not that hard to find. But nothing is worse than playing with bad company. 2. Pace of play - This can really get me if its too slow. I don't necessarily rush, but an average 4some at my club can play their matches in 3:45-4:00. Occasionally we do 3somes in 3:30 or less, but the 4 hour mark makes for the pace not to be an issue especially at a resort course. 3. Conditions - I like decent greens. I can accept some other places being unkept, but the greens really can make or break it for me. Expand Heartily agree on #3. I can have a great time with a lot of compromise on conditions off the green, but shitty greens ruin a round. 1 MattMid-Weight Heavy PutterCleveland Tour Action 60ΛCleveland CG15 54ΛNike Vapor Pro Combo, 4i-GWTitleist 585h 19ΛTour Edge Exotics XCG 15Λ 3 WoodTaylormade R7 Quad 9.5Λ Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
jsgolfer January 5, 2024 #27 Report January 5, 2024 (edited) 1. Company is the most important to me, 2. Pace of play is next, although I can live with a longer pace of play if the company is great. 3. Conditions are next I'm a member at a Country Club, so true value is whatever is in the eye of the beholder. But being a member at a country club is a luxury. Finally architecture I can do with or without, Royal New Kent, which so many people here love, I can't stand, same with Tobacco Road. Weird holes, for the sake of weird holes, doesn't do it for me. Edited January 5, 2024 by jsgolfer 1 -Jerry Driver: Titleist 913 D3 (9.5 degree) β Aldila RIP 60-2.9-Stiff; Callaway Mini-Driver Kura Kage 60g shaft - 12 degree Hybrids: Callway X2 Hot Pro - 16 degree & 23 degree β Pro-Shaft; Callway X2 Hot β 5H & 6H Irons: Titleist 714 AP2 7 thru AW with S300 Dynamic Gold Wedges: Titleist Vokey GW (54 degree), Callaway MackDaddy PM Grind SW (58 degree) Putter: Ping Cadence TR Ketsch Heavy Balls: Titleist Pro V1x & Snell MyTourBall "Golf is the closest game to the game we call life. You get bad breaks from good shots; you get good breaks from bad shots but you have to play the ball where it lies."- Bobby Jones Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
mdl January 8, 2024 #28 Report January 8, 2024 On 1/5/2024 at 7:00 PM, jsgolfer said: Finally architecture I can do with or without, Royal New Kent, which so many people here love, I can't stand, same with Tobacco Road. Weird holes, for the sake of weird holes, doesn't do it for me. Expand I'd argue weird holes for the sake of weird holes is bad architecture. So if anything this is evidence you do care about architecture π MattMid-Weight Heavy PutterCleveland Tour Action 60ΛCleveland CG15 54ΛNike Vapor Pro Combo, 4i-GWTitleist 585h 19ΛTour Edge Exotics XCG 15Λ 3 WoodTaylormade R7 Quad 9.5Λ Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
jsgolfer January 9, 2024 #29 Report January 9, 2024 On 1/8/2024 at 7:17 PM, mdl said: I'd argue weird holes for the sake of weird holes is bad architecture. So if anything this is evidence you do care about architecture π Expand I do like architecture, just not top 3, although would probably be 3b. π -Jerry Driver: Titleist 913 D3 (9.5 degree) β Aldila RIP 60-2.9-Stiff; Callaway Mini-Driver Kura Kage 60g shaft - 12 degree Hybrids: Callway X2 Hot Pro - 16 degree & 23 degree β Pro-Shaft; Callway X2 Hot β 5H & 6H Irons: Titleist 714 AP2 7 thru AW with S300 Dynamic Gold Wedges: Titleist Vokey GW (54 degree), Callaway MackDaddy PM Grind SW (58 degree) Putter: Ping Cadence TR Ketsch Heavy Balls: Titleist Pro V1x & Snell MyTourBall "Golf is the closest game to the game we call life. You get bad breaks from good shots; you get good breaks from bad shots but you have to play the ball where it lies."- Bobby Jones Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
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