Having Trouble Gettings Hands to Roll Through Impact

[Inferno2ss]

On 8/30/2019 at 5:05 PM, billchao said:

I'm trying to reduce the rolling of my hands in my swing. I can't fathom people actually wanting to do it on purpose.

That is fine for some one who can work the ball right to left, but some of us struggle with holding the club face off because we use to flip at the ball and are afraid that is what we are doing.

One of the things that has been helping me as of late is changing my "release" point.  I had been too focused on getting the head square at the ball that I wasn't paying enough attention to the fact my release point should be past the ball instead of at the ball.  Trying to release at the ball and keep your hands in front of the club at impact led to me blocking it high to the right or slicing it depending on my path.

This video really helped me understand the release much better.

 

Edited October 9, 2019 by Inferno2ss

[billchao]

7 hours ago, Inferno2ss said:

That is fine for some one who can work the ball right to left, but some of us struggle with holding the club face off because we use to flip at the ball and are afraid that is what we are doing.

A flip and a roll are both compensations for something else going on in the swing. You can play well if you time either properly but consistency will be an issue.

[Lihu]

9 hours ago, Inferno2ss said:

That is fine for some one who can work the ball right to left, but some of us struggle with holding the club face off because we use to flip at the ball and are afraid that is what we are doing.

One of the things that has been helping me as of late is changing my "release" point.  I had been too focused on getting the head square at the ball that I wasn't paying enough attention to the fact my release point should be past the ball instead of at the ball.  Trying to release at the ball and keep your hands in front of the club at impact led to me blocking it high to the right or slicing it depending on my path.

This video really helped me understand the release much better.

 

Agree with @billchao, not many people I know who swing reasonably “focus on release“ at all...

[ShawnSum]

This seems to be an awfully complicated issue for some people while for others it's something they don't even think about. What is separating the two player types here?

• Player A is executing a proper Golf Swing and is getting all the necessary rotation required to square the club through impact?
• Player B feels like they have to snap/roll the hands/forearms to even have a chance at squaring the club up?

Is there a middle ground anywhere, or does it simply come down to learning how to rotate properly or forever be stuck with band aid fixes with flipping, rolling, etc?

For me personally I feel like I hit my best shots when my focus is on making sure I swing on the correct path for the shot I am trying to make and then absolutely following through/committing to the swing and really sticking the full follow through posture at the end.

[DaveP043]

38 minutes ago, ShawnSum said:

Is there a middle ground anywhere, or does it simply come down to learning how to rotate properly or forever be stuck with band aid fixes with flipping, rolling, etc?

I think its possible to practice enough to time the compensations well without conscious thought.  But they're still compensations, and as such are likely to get more erratic when practice time falls off.  The more productive and consistent results come from swings that require fewer compensations.

[ShawnSum]

3 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

I think its possible to practice enough to time the compensations well without conscious thought.  But they're still compensations, and as such are likely to get more erratic when practice time falls off.  The more productive and consistent results come from swings that require fewer compensations.

Right, and ultimately this type of approach with relying on precise timing can only get you so far I would imagine? I would also guess that this is why most recreational golfers have absolutely huge highs and lows sometimes, such as going out and shooting a 85 and then turning around on the same course and shooting 110? The timing got off and their game literally imploded?

[Lihu]

1 hour ago, ShawnSum said:

Right, and ultimately this type of approach with relying on precise timing can only get you so far I would imagine? I would also guess that this is why most recreational golfers have absolutely huge highs and lows sometimes, such as going out and shooting a 85 and then turning around on the same course and shooting 110? The timing got off and their game literally imploded?

I think it’s possible to shoot 85 then 110 even with a reasonable swing😱

It’s possible that people go through more  terrible slumps when they need a lot of compensation that makes them feel like they don’t even know how to swing any more? As opposed to just hitting bad 😂