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I still think tiger is tiger, however. You look at the level these guys play on, He had almost a whole year off with not even swinging a club. where I bet in the last 30 years of his life he hasn't went that long with out swinging a club. Its going to take some time for his game to come back to exactly where he (we) want it.

Tiger has the intimidation factor that no one else carries on the PGA. You think those guys at the US Open would have won if tiger would have been side by side, maybe tiger was 1 under them? no. He is tiger.

But we forget that he is somewhat human (i think) and he has his up and downs. who knows, its kinda fun to see some other names on the leader boards.

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I think the field has gotten a lot better since the early 2000's. Or at least a lot deeper.
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He has. But aside from Phil trimming up, do you think other guys are following this lead? This is not a rhetorical question, I'm wondering if this is really going on. Sorry, but my ADD just kicked in, remember when Gary Player said guys on Tour were using steriods or HGH? I'm sort of laughing thinking about it.

sorry for the double post in advance.

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sorry for the double post in advance.

Ok, but are you telling me the field is a lot more fit than they were in 2000? That is a very bold statement. I'm not saying it isn't true at all, but golf is a 120+ year old sport. To say that players are significantly more fit than they were just 8-9 years ago is a pretty significant statement.

You could very well be right, but still a big deal.

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Well, he was off for a year and that doesn't include the swing changes. I believe it is a mixture of swing changes, time off, and the more talented field of players that are coming up. It is going to get harder and harder for him to "dominate." When he first came on the tour no one was really working out that much and taking physical abilities into consideration as much. Over the years that Tiger has been there, the tour players have started working on their physical attributes and now all of the younger players are coming in with the same mindset. It is going to get tougher.

I think you're right. See, he raised the bar. He is so fit, so perfect for golf, he raised the bar. He trounced them. Now, they are closer. And he is still beating them more often than anyone I have even known. I can't believe we are actually having this conversation, as he is still a world-beater, but I guess I understand, in that he is not winning by large margins. However, NOTHING has diminished my admiration of his talent in the past few years. If anything, it's increased. He is THE man.

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a few possible reasons for why he isn't winning by double digit no. of strokes:

That's a very astute post. Kudos.

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Is it possible the other players are getting better? The youngsters, especially? They don't seem to be as intimidated as the older generation - they take Tiger as a role model and try to imitate him. They work harder, they work out, they perform better.

Have to agree that Tiger is still dominant, though.
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Tiger isnt super human like some people like to believe!

And saying he doesnt dominate no more is crazy, true he hasnt won a tournament by double digits in a while but thats down to other players getting better! I dont think tiger has got any better since '02 really! His putting this year so far has been rather patchy at best!

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Tiger isnt super human like some people like to believe!

For sure.

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You know, you could say Tiger is dominating even more, but in a different way.

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Sounds pretty dominating to me.
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You know, you could say Tiger is dominating even more, but in a different way.

i noticed the same thing last night... which is amazing. but, it seems as if he's sort of playing not to lose, instead of playing to demolish his opponents.

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Every great player has a period of DOMINANCE, and then the rest of the field catches up. This was true of Jack, Arnie, Tom Watson, the Shark, Annika, Lorena, etc. To expect Tiger to win every Major is a pipe dream. Angel Cabrera won the Masters and Tiger lost it. Lucas Glover won the US Open and Tiger was out of it after his 74. There is now parity on the PGA Tour and the LPGA Tour. We must wait for a new Superstar to emerge.

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I don't know if anyone has posted this but I heard on the Golf Channel that Tiger has missed FIVE CUTS SINCE 1997 .

When you factor in that one of them was the U.S. Open, shortly after his father died, he gets a pass. Therefore, you're looking at four missed cuts in 12 years. Lefty and Sergio have combined to miss that many, this year, alone. Paddy Harrington has six missed cuts, this year.

Its safe to say that El Tigre is dominating, IMO.

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So many people are saying that he does dominate.. I don't think *anyone* has said that he doesn't!

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He's still the worlds best player, hands down. That he is not dominating as much as he did in the period of 99-02 there is no doubt of, he may not ever dominate as much as he did those years. He played brilliantly. The rest of the field has since then gotten better, what with the physical subject, doing what Tiger did those years is even harder today.

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You know, you could say Tiger is dominating even more, but in a different way.

That is truly amazing plus when he is playing his best no one beats him but when he is playing something less than his best he is still contending

and sometimes winning. Thats pretty darn good if not dominating.
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