Clubface Square to the Plane

[Ernest Jones]

Just to point this out. You can see his club face at the top is nearly the same angle as his left hand. This is due to his grip, but it tells me his left forearm has rotated 90 degrees from the initial set up. If it didn't rotate the back of the left hand would be facing the camera. There is a natural rotation in the forearm in the golf swing. So it is not a square to square motion. The club face never stays square to the swing plane. He might FEEL like his clubface stays square, but it doesn't.

FWIW, I'm pretty sure the whole square to square concept refers to waist high to waist high? Can @samgouldengolf elaborate?

I'll come clean and admit I only watch the first quarter of the video, my damn office phone keeps ringing, really interferes with my golf study.

[saevel25]

FWIW, I'm pretty sure the whole square to square concept refers to waist high to waist high? Can @samgouldengolf elaborate?

I'll come clean and admit I only watch the first quarter of the video, my damn office phone keeps ringing, really interferes with my golf study.

Even then, does the clubhead return to the exact same position at A6 as it was in the backswing? Is the clubhead square to the path then?

[Ernest Jones]

Even then, does the clubhead return to the exact same position at A6 as it was in the backswing? Is the clubhead square to the path then?

I don't know and my camera isn't fast enough to say with any certainty about my own swing. I suspect it's open because if I don't turn my hips fast enough after A6 I hit a push. If really turn hard after A6 I usually get it to draw back or at least push a lot less. That's all just what I feel though so...I do know if my belt buckle is pointed left of the target at my finish I usually have hit a pretty good ball.

[cipher]

Even then, does the clubhead return to the exact same position at A6 as it was in the backswing? Is the clubhead square to the path then?

I don't think so, because generally at A6 you have a lot more right wrist cock(and lag) than you would at A2 in a good swing.  I don't think it could be the same.

[mvmac]

Even then, does the clubhead return to the exact same position at A6 as it was in the backswing? Is the clubhead square to the path then?

At A2, leading edge comes close to being parallel to the player's inclination.  At A6 the leading edge will be closer to vertical.  As the wrists uncock and unhinge the forearms will rotate at different rates and points on the downswing than the backswing.

[Golf Grouch]

Isn't this a good explanation that seems a bit contrary to what has been mentioned?

 

[billchao]

4 hours ago, Golf Grouch said:

Isn't this a good explanation that seems a bit contrary to what has been mentioned?

 

Not sure to what specifically you are saying this disagrees with, but it's not contrary to the OP.

[dchoye]

On August 16, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Golf Grouch said:

Isn't this a good explanation that seems a bit contrary to what has been mentioned?

 

Good video 

I have a tendency to be a bit to manipulative with my hand in the backswing  I play better when I let the clubface open square to my shoulders or torso turning 

My hands should be more active during the release when C force builds up 

I prefer more elliptical looking hula hoop as my center is more over my right hip until after impact before a take a "side step" to my front foot 

 

[iacas]

1 hour ago, dchoye said:

My hands should be more active during the release when C force builds up 

I prefer more elliptical looking hula hoop as my center is more over my right hip until after impact before a take a "side step" to my front foot 

Sounds like your weight's not really forward enough at the right time and it causes you to be handsy.

Your hands shouldn't be very active "during the release." There shouldn't be any real "active release," even.