Jump to content
IGNORED

My Swing (saevel25)


saevel25

Recommended Posts

I played 18 holes today. I wanted to list some things that I did on some of my best shots. 

Set Up
Preset a bit more weight forward to get that 10 or so degrees of spin tilt. Make sure I was looking down at the ball better. I have a tendency to keep my head too up from time to time. 

Backswing
I tried to open my hips a tad sooner and make the backswing slower and methodical like my previous range session. This helps me feel the top of the backswing better and keeping the club short of parallel. 

Downswing
Drive that right side through, hit the ball with my right side. On some swings I can do this too much and lose my steady head and I end up hitting a low pull or pull draw. When I don't I hit some really good push draws. 

Overall I was happy with my ball striking. 

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator
1 hour ago, saevel25 said:

I played 18 holes today. I wanted to list some things that I did on some of my best shots. 

Set Up
Preset a bit more weight forward to get that 10 or so degrees of spin tilt. Make sure I was looking down at the ball better. I have a tendency to keep my head too up from time to time. 

Backswing
I tried to open my hips a tad sooner and make the backswing slower and methodical like my previous range session. This helps me feel the top of the backswing better and keeping the club short of parallel. 

Downswing
Drive that right side through, hit the ball with my right side. On some swings I can do this too much and lose my steady head and I end up hitting a low pull or pull draw. When I don't I hit some really good push draws. 

Overall I was happy with my ball striking. 

Good to hear. You're doing the right things.

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • 3 weeks later...

It's been a long break since I could go to the range. Luckily the weather is going to get better the next few days. Has spring finally come :)

I've been working on my backswing in doors. I like how it is progressing. It's much easier now to set the club earlier in the backswing. I am really feeling that hands more out in front of me at A3 now. 

What's been bothering is my putting practice. I always seem to struggle with this though my putting is terrible. It's not good either. It pretty much sits around average for a scratch golfer. Putting has the least separation value between handicap ranges. 

Here is my struggle. I am trying to stop taking the club too far inside on the putting stroke. When I try to not do this I end up feeling like the putter is moving in like half  figure 8. Sometimes the putter just goes inside too much. Other times it goes outside with a closed clubface and then it feels like I need to open the clubface so I hold the putter toe from turning over, like if you hold off the face and chicken wing an iron shot. 

It's just feels like a jumbled mess right now on trying to figure this out. :pound:

 

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Pitching notes

1. Keep head steady over ball with the backswing 

2. Fan the club more

3. Chest to target

4. Feel club pass the hand more. Bad habit of dragging hands toward target. 

 

Distance wedges

1. Keep head down more, chin more to chest. 

2. Hinge more. 

3. Turn right side to target. Don't let head fall back and down.

4. A good check is the finish. Does the head dip and then turn to the target or does the hands finish naturally higher and upper body and head has a higher finish. 

 

Putting

1. Garbage. Nothing feels good. Heeling and toeing putts. Can't consistently take the putter back the way I want. Set up feels different between putts, not consistent. 

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

2 hours ago, saevel25 said:

Putting

1. Garbage. Nothing feels good. Heeling and toeing putts. Can't consistently take the putter back the way I want. Set up feels different between putts, not consistent. 

I have used a putting mat similar to the one shown here. I have found that using this on the green helps me to visualize the stroke while still making my normal stroke. Since you are a good engineer you can probably make one yourself and save the money.

Putting_Template_12_degree_arc_2__40586.1399544188.500.750.jpg

Michael

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

2 hours ago, saevel25 said:

Putting

1. Garbage. Nothing feels good. Heeling and toeing putts. Can't consistently take the putter back the way I want. Set up feels different between putts, not consistent. 

Maybe I've missed this but how do you grip your putter? Have you tried left hand low, claw, prayer ect..? I'm just wondering if your fighting your grip. Sorry if this has been addressed before.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Just now, Jakester23 said:

Maybe I've missed this but how do you grip your putter? Have you tried left hand low, claw, prayer ect..? I'm just wondering if your fighting your grip. Sorry if this has been addressed before.

Double reverse overlap. 

I can't stand left hand low or the claw. My grip is already in the palms of my hands a good deal anyways.

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

6 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

Double reverse overlap. 

I can't stand left hand low or the claw. My grip is already in the palms of my hands a good deal anyways.

Have you tried just gripping it like you do the rest of your clubs? Obviously it's more through the life line of your palms instead of heel pads. Don't even feel obliged to respond or try it I just wanna see you putt better. I think I speak for most of us when I say we wish we could hit the ball like you. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

12 minutes ago, Jakester23 said:

Have you tried just gripping it like you do the rest of your clubs? Obviously it's more through the life line of your palms instead of heel pads. Don't even feel obliged to respond or try it I just wanna see you putt better. I think I speak for most of us when I say we wish we could hit the ball like you. 

No problem man. I don't think it's my grip. I like how the putter feels. I am just struggling with my putter path.

I just video taped my putting and I am back to my too inward path in the backstroke. I just struggle with taking it less inward because the club head goes up in the air and the putter face feels really close.


Edit update,

I just tried putting right handed only. I can keep the putter head from going too inward on the backstroke and was hitting flush putts. I'll try right hand only drills for a while. At least it allows me to get the putting path I want easier. 

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

4 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

No problem man. I don't think it's my grip. I like how the putter feels. I am just struggling with my putter path.

I just video taped my putting and I am back to my too inward path in the backstroke. I just struggle with taking it less inward because the club head goes up in the air and the putter face feels really close.


Edit update,

I just tried putting right handed only. I can keep the putter head from going too inward on the backstroke and was hitting flush putts. I'll try right hand only drills for a while. At least it allows me to get the putting path I want easier. 

That's cool you'll get it dialed in.  You gotta be happy your more concerned with your putting than your full swing.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

33 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

No problem man. I don't think it's my grip. I like how the putter feels. I am just struggling with my putter path.

I just video taped my putting and I am back to my too inward path in the backstroke. I just struggle with taking it less inward because the club head goes up in the air and the putter face feels really close.


Edit update,

I just tried putting right handed only. I can keep the putter head from going too inward on the backstroke and was hitting flush putts. I'll try right hand only drills for a while. At least it allows me to get the putting path I want easier. 

Like your update above. When my putting is out of sync i do similar. I saw this video of Thomas Björn years ago and depending on the issues i follow this. Usually i struggle more on pace and strike the middle of the putter head than line so it has happened i have putted right handed only on the course with remarkable results. I agree with you with not changing grips as soon as it "stops" working. We are not Ernie Els are we!

 

Edited by klund
Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Moderator

I'd never think to make suggestions about your full swing, you know more about your swing than I'll ever know about mine.  In putting, though, I'll offer two suggestions.  First, I'd check your set up, particularly your distance from the ball.  I find when I get a little further away, my path becomes erratic.  Its as if the stroke "wants" to be a specific distance from my toes, not matter where I actually set up.  The other suggestion is some form of "gate drill".  Two tees to make gate, or maybe a series of gates, to force your putter head on a specific path.  You might even combine the two thoughts, vary your distance from the ball until you find a set up that makes it easier to achieve the desired path.

Good luck, I know you want to be putting at your best when you get to Pinehurst!

Dave

:callaway: Rogue SubZero Driver

:titleist: 915F 15 Fairway, 816 H1 19 Hybrid, AP2 4 iron to PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60 wedges, ProV1 balls 
:ping: G5i putter, B60 version
 :ping:Hoofer Bag, complete with Newport Cup logo
:footjoy::true_linkswear:, and Ashworth shoes

the only thing wrong with this car is the nut behind the wheel.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

1 minute ago, DaveP043 said:

Two tees to make gate, or maybe a series of gates, to force your putter head on a specific path.  You might even combine the two thoughts, vary your distance from the ball until you find a set up that makes it easier to achieve the desired path.

I have a few bad habit with my set up. 

1. I get my hands set up too high, getting the club toe-down. 
2. I can stand with my arms too extended. 
3. I can get too upright with my upper body. 

Right now I've been using two clubs, about an 1.5 inches outside the width of my putter as a visual training aid. I am just trying to make slower putting strokes to feel the path better. It seems to be helping. 

 

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator

You'll figure it out, I know.  BTW, did you get the list of restaurants I sent a couple of weeks back?

Dave

:callaway: Rogue SubZero Driver

:titleist: 915F 15 Fairway, 816 H1 19 Hybrid, AP2 4 iron to PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60 wedges, ProV1 balls 
:ping: G5i putter, B60 version
 :ping:Hoofer Bag, complete with Newport Cup logo
:footjoy::true_linkswear:, and Ashworth shoes

the only thing wrong with this car is the nut behind the wheel.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

4 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

You'll figure it out, I know.  BTW, did you get the list of restaurants I sent a couple of weeks back?

Yep, I passed along to the guy who organized the trip. 

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator

Cool, have a great time!  :beer:  Oh, and try to keep it out of the pine straw, that stuff is a PITA.

Dave

:callaway: Rogue SubZero Driver

:titleist: 915F 15 Fairway, 816 H1 19 Hybrid, AP2 4 iron to PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60 wedges, ProV1 balls 
:ping: G5i putter, B60 version
 :ping:Hoofer Bag, complete with Newport Cup logo
:footjoy::true_linkswear:, and Ashworth shoes

the only thing wrong with this car is the nut behind the wheel.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

22 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

Oh, and try to keep it out of the pine straw, that stuff is a PITA.

I highly doubt I will. :whistle:

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

My wonderful shot dispersion on 15 yard pitch shots. 

image.jpeg

:~(:~(:~(:~(

i somehow can block these shots up to 10 yards right 

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.
  • Posts

    • I had to think about this topic for a while. I don't tend to remember specific details about my putts, but a few do stand out in my mind so I guess they're worth noting. I don't know that I'd call them my favorite but it's close enough. #18 at Spooky Brook Might be the hardest 4' putt I've ever had. Pin was back right and I hit my third shot just to the right of it. The green slopes fairly severely back to front. I read the green but I knew the putt anyway as I've seen it before. I told the guys I was playing with that the putt was it was going to break almost 3' and if it doesn't go in I'd have a longer coming back up for par than I was looking at. It went in. #12 at Quail Brook I'm not even sure how to describe this green properly. It's not quite a two-tiered green, but the back and front are separated by a ridge that goes across the middle of it, with the green sloping harder off the front than the back. You can generally putt from the front to a back hole location but good luck keeping the ball on the green if you putt from back to front. On this particular day, I was looking at the latter. I had to putt up into the apron due to how the ball was going to break and that helped slow the ball down enough to hit the hole at the perfect speed. One of the rare birdies I've seen on that hole. #2 at Hyatt Hills Short par 5. This makes the list because it's the first eagle putt I've ever made, which funny enough happened the day after the first eagle I've ever made. I've made two eagles in all my life and they came on back to back days. I wasn't even planning on playing golf - it was a Monday - but I was doing some work at the place I used to work at when I was younger and catching up with some of the guys I've known for years. They were going out to play in the afternoon and had a spot available. I used to see these guys every day for years but we've never played together, so I said I'm in. I hit a really good approach shot into slope that separated the two tiers on the green and spun the ball closer to the hole. Had roughly 8' left to the hole, a downhill right to left breaker. One of the guys said, "You've got to make this, I've never seen an eagle before," and I said, "I've never made an eagle putt before." And then I made it. #17 at Stoneleigh @GolfLug's post reminded me of my own heroics on #17 a couple of years ago. The hole was back left, in the bottom tier. I hit my approach short of the green and flubbed my chip so it stayed on the top tier. I read how the putt was going to break after the ramp (is that what you call it?), then read my putt up to that point. It needed to basically die at that point because if it hit the slope with any kind of speed, it would long past the hole and possibly off the green. I hit the putt perfectly and holed the 40-footer center cup. #6 at Meadow at Neshanic Valley, #15 in the Round This was during the stroke play qualifier of my tournament. It might be a little bit of recency bias and I hit some really good long putts in the four rounds I played, but this 7-footer was my favorite putt of the entire tournament. The hole was cut on the top of a ridge. I hit my tee shot short right but hit a pretty good chip just long and below the hole. Play had backed up at this point, with the ladies waiting on the tee while we were finishing up. I hit the putt just a hair on the high side and it curled around the hole, fell back a couple of inches and stopped on lip. We all looked at it incredulously, "How does that not fall in?" Before I took my first step towards the hole, the ball must have thought the same thing and decided to drop.
    • I don't remember a ton of putts, but I've thought about this a bit and came up with 2 good ones. #5 at Mid-South: 2017 Newport Cup I remember the putt pretty well, but the surrounding details are a little hazy. I believe this was in my singles match against @cipher, and it was a hole he was stroking on. I had hit a mediocre approach to the front of the green and had what must have been a 50 foot putt to a back pin. If I remember correctly, @cipher was pretty close for an easy par at worst. I had @mvmac help me out with a read, which ended up being a great read by him. Hit the putt and jarred it for birdie. It was perfect speed, too, would have been an easy 2 putt if it hadn't gone in. I think we ended up tying for the hole. But I rarely make putts that long, and doing it to steal half a hole was really nice. #3 Fox Hollow (Links): 2023 Match Play This was on the third extra hole of a scratch match against a legitimate 0 handicapper. We had tied after 18 holes and traded pars on the first two extra holes. On the third extra hole, he had about 30 feet for birdie; I had about 25. We were on pretty much the exact same line. He missed his putt just on the low side, and I conceded the par. I felt good over this putt - I knew the break well and just needed good speed. I hit a great (not perfect) putt, and BAM, back of the cup for the victory on the 21st hole. I will say that the speed wasn't great, as it would have been a few feet past if it didn't hit the cup. But I wanted to give the ball a chance and take a bit of break out of it. I went on to win the match play tournament, which is my only tournament victory in a scratch event.
    • there will be lots of changes.  i mean, look at newey past, each team fell off a cliff when he moved on i think max is the magic bullet   if red bull loses him then whee are they going for drivers?   lots of young talent but he is a proven winner and i’m sure top engineers love to work with him  
    • I too, like @GolfLug, remember great wedge, iron shots, or my missed putts, more than my made putts. My most memorable recently, would be: #17 Old Course St. Andrews (last year) I had been putting awful all day (I started 3 putt, 4 putt, 3 putt, 3 putt), but found a putting stroke on the back 9 and was 1 under on the back going into 16 and of course I 3-putted it for a bogey. Got to 17 and my playing partner just hit it into the hotel, so I went a little more left and decided to not try and hit it over the hotel.  And as soon as my ball was in the air, I heard one of the other caddies do the chicken noise.  LOL My shot was a little more left than I wanted, about 185 yards, I hit a 6-iron and it was drawing right at the flag.  The pin was just to the right of he bunker and towards the front of the green. My ball hit short (and just missed going into said bunker) and stopped about 15 feet left of the hole. Had a little left to right break and as soon as I hit it, I knew it was in.  Birdie on the road hole, looked at the caddie and said not bad for a Chicken.  Parred 18 (missed 10 foot birdie putt) for a 35 on the back 9 at the Old Course. #18 Springfield G&CC Last year while playing in our season long match play event, my partner and I get the 18th hole needing to win the match to move on into the knockout round.  We are tied going into 18.  A tie and we lose on overall points by .5.  Our teaching pro is on the other team (very good golfer), so we were pretty sure we needed a birdie to have a chance to win the match, I hit on of the best drives I hit all day and had about 135 yards to the pin, but it was in a place where you didn't really want to be long.  So I hit a PW and it landed just short of the flag but released about 12 feet past the hole, so have a devilish putt coming back down the hill.  Our competitors were away and the pro missed his birdie putt by inches, I thought it was in when he hit it.  So after reading the putt, which probably had a 2 cup left to right break, I made the putt to win the match.   #15 Springfield G&CC A few years back, was playing in the first round of the Club Championship (against the previous years runner-up) and my putter was balky all day.  Got to the 15 hole, 2nd Par 5 on back, and was 3-down with 4 to play.  We both hit good drives, both hit good second shots and we both hit decent 3rd shots.  I was about 15 feet and he was just a hair longer.  He missed his putt, I had another slider putt down the hill, with about a foot of right to left break and made the putt.  I birded the next hole, to go 1 down, but not a memorable putt as I only needed a bogey to beat him on that hole, he had all kinds of issues going on.  Lost on 17, as he birdied it, right after I missed mine to lose 2&1.
    • Wordle 1,049 3/6* ⬜⬜⬜🟩🟨 ⬜⬜🟨🟩⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩  
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...