Getting Hosed

[BigJoe]

I played in a reverse mulligan tournament yesterday.  2 man teams each man has 2 reverse mulligans and can call back and nullify their opponents shots.  Then 1 man of the opposing team has to replay the shot.  So here is my story:

My partner and I both tried to really each power up a drive, anyway we are both out of bounds.  He plays a provisional we are now laying 3 on a par 4. We are out 117 yds.   He knocks his 3 feet from the pin.  Best scenario is a bogey.  I knock it in.  The first time I have ever holed out from the fairway.  Our opponents call it back.

My partner rehits and we are in the rough just off the fringe.  We end up making a 6.

[andymane]

while i do think its chiken SH@T to call back someones hole out especially one for par. money one the line changes everything.... nice shot by the way!

[clubchamp]

That does stink but I would have done the same thing if I was your opponents. Hey look at the positive you hit a heck of a shot and it's just unfortunate you were playing that format.

[normdamarine]

You would have done the same thing if the shoe was on the other foot... I would have...

[Fourputt]

Play in a tournament with a silly format and you have to expect silly things to happen.   If you don't like it, play real golf.

[mirv]

you know, i really don't think i could make myself call that shot back if you were my opponent.  i have too much appreciation for a good golf shot.  it'd have to be a fairly impressive amount of money on the line, and a scenario like "if we give them that par, we're going to be 2 shots down going to the last hole" for me to say "sorry bud, reverse mulligan."  but it doesn't surprise me that most other people would, and of course, given the format, that was totally their right.

[golf4fun12]

I like goofy tournaments like this just cause it is different. nice shot btw

[delav]

Can't get too upset about goofy tournament rules... Must have felt GREAT to knock it in from 117 man.

We played a tournament once where a team could 'buy' rope by the foot for putting gimmies.  The money went to charity, but it was only $5 a foot.  One team bought 20 feet and ended up hacking their way to the lowest round.  Oh well :/

[iacas]

Originally Posted by delav

Can't get too upset about goofy tournament rules... Must have felt GREAT to knock it in from 117 man.

I wonder if tournament rules permitted them to call back a shot after the hole had technically been completed. Holing out ends the hole, after all.

Unlikely, but it might have been worth a shot. :-)

[Huffy2k]

Congrats on the great shot but I'm not sure how you consider that getting hosed?  After all, your opponents are not going to reverse mulligan a poor shot are they?  So you got a 6 on the hole, nobody can take away your holing out from the fairway!

[Up & Down]

Looking at this way, it is not like they have unlimited mulligans. 2 for each man is reasonable. If you make a whole bunch of great shots then they can not call back every one of them after they run out of mulligans. It is like the challenge call in the NFL, you have to use the red flag wisely. Great shot by the way.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by BigJoe

I played in a reverse mulligan tournament yesterday.  2 man teams each man has 2 reverse mulligans and can call back and nullify their opponents shots.  Then 1 man of the opposing team has to replay the shot.  So here is my story:

My partner and I both tried to really each power up a drive, anyway we are both out of bounds.  He plays a provisional we are now laying 3 on a par 4. We are out 117 yds.   He knocks his 3 feet from the pin.  Best scenario is a bogey.  I knock it in.  The first time I have ever holed out from the fairway.  Our opponents call it back.

My partner rehits and we are in the rough just off the fringe.  We end up making a 6.

I don't get this scenario. Partner hits to 3-feet, then you hit a shot from the fairway and hole out. Do you mean they called both shots back?

[Double Bogey]

I am with Sean.  If they call yours back, you have the 3 footer left for bogey.  If they called both of those back it seems like a waste of two mulligans.  I understand calling yours back, but not your playing partners too

[Pat007]

you didnt get hosed, they used the rules to their advantage. End of story.

[Fourputt]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

I don't get this scenario. Partner hits to 3-feet, then you hit a shot from the fairway and hole out. Do you mean they called both shots back?

Their opponents used both of their reverse mulligans at the same time to recall both excellent shots.  All that means is that they had no more recalls left after that.  It looks like they only gained one stroke for using both recalls.... maybe not the best expenditure they could have found.  I think I'd have used one on the holed shot, then saved the other one for later in the round to try and gain at least one stroke per recall.  There was no guarantee that his partner would make that 3 footer for bogey.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by Fourputt

Their opponents used both of their reverse mulligans at the same time to recall both excellent shots.  All that means is that they had no more recalls left after that.  It looks like they only gained one stroke for using both recalls.... maybe not the best expenditure they could have found.  I think I'd have used one on the holed shot, then saved the other one for later in the round to try and gain at least one stroke per recall.  There was no guarantee that his partner would make that 3 footer for bogey.

That's what I was thinking. There was no guarantee on that 3-footer. That second reverse mulligan cancelled at most 1 stroke and potentially zero.

[TXjammer]

Originally Posted by iacas

I wonder if tournament rules permitted them to call back a shot after the hole had technically been completed. Holing out ends the hole, after all.

Unlikely, but it might have been worth a shot. :-)

I'm with this guy...it's in the hole...seems to be a done deal.  Did the rules allow you to "reverse mulligan" a putt?  Your shot was the equivelant of a putt!

[Fourputt]

Originally Posted by TXjammer

I'm with this guy...it's in the hole...seems to be a done deal.  Did the rules allow you to "reverse mulligan" a putt?  Your shot was the equivelant of a putt!

In match play, if a player plays out of turn, the stroke can be recalled even if the ball is holed.  If the stroke is recalled then it's as if it was never made in the first place.  The ball cannot be holed if the stroke never happened.  I would say that the same applies in this rather unusual format.