The Dan Plan - 10,000 Hours to Become a Pro Golfer (Dan McLaughlin)

[shortstop20]

I think I misinterpreted what you meant with this statement.

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Doesn't make sense to me either. With the amount of effort he puts in per day, he should be able to pull a full time job.

Seems now you were inferring he doesn't work that hard on his game for it being his job, in which case, I agree.

[Lihu]

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Originally Posted by shortstop20

I think I misinterpreted what you meant with this statement.

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Doesn't make sense to me either. With the amount of effort he puts in per day, he should be able to pull a full time job.

Seems now you were inferring he doesn't work that hard on his game for it being his job, in which case, I agree.

I was actually stating one and inferring the other. . .There's no reason he shouldn't be able to play and practice as much as he does and hold a full time job at the same time.

Now if that roughly 5.5 hours per day is enough for him to become a PGA Tour player or not is debatable. If you're Bubba Watson, maybe? Anyone else is questionable.

[mchepp]

I was actually stating one and inferring the other. . .There's no reason he shouldn't be able to play and practice as much as he does and hold a full time job at the same time.

Now if that roughly 5.5 hours per day is enough for him to become a PGA Tour player or not is debatable. If you're Bubba Watson, maybe? Anyone else is questionable.

I got the sense in talking with him that he spends all day at the course. Practice time might be 5 hours, but that does not include eating lunch, breakfast, dinner. Plus time to talk with friends and play a few holes.

[Lihu]

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Originally Posted by Lihu

I was actually stating one and inferring the other. . .There's no reason he shouldn't be able to play and practice as much as he does and hold a full time job at the same time.

Now if that roughly 5.5 hours per day is enough for him to become a PGA Tour player or not is debatable. If you're Bubba Watson, maybe? Anyone else is questionable.

I got the sense in talking with him that he spends all day at the course. Practice time might be 5 hours, but that does not include eating lunch, breakfast, dinner. Plus time to talk with friends and play a few holes.

IMHO, his work ethic is not exactly the strongest for a golfer. In my proposed schedule, I was including about 15 minutes time for breakfast, lunch and dinner (more time so he has time to make dinner/lunch for himself).

I practice and play about 3 hours per day while working full time, take time for my kids and family, fix stuff in my house(s). I sometimes don't eat breakfast and dinner, and when I do it's in between tasks. I sleep around 7 hours a day, and don't really have time to "relax". This is just an attempt to meet my relatively modest lifetime goal to get a solid swing. I like work and I like activities that take work to learn, and tend to think many other golfers think the same way.

If I were 20 years old, and my goal was to play in the PGA assuming I had the talent and was already a +2 to +4 something handicap, I would be practicing at least 10 hours a day working at least part time to pay the bills and or giving lessons to people to make extra cash. Relaxing and talking to friends for any significant amount of time away from golf would the last thing on my mind.

Professionals work more than us at it, and that's what it takes.

[shortstop20]

I got the sense in talking with him that he spends all day at the course. Practice time might be 5 hours, but that does not include eating lunch, breakfast, dinner. Plus time to talk with friends and play a few holes.

5 hours a day is nothing for what's supposed to be his career.

He doesn't have the talent or the dedication.

[iacas]

Well, technically he is a golf "Professional". He because that when he took up the "career" of working towards becoming a PGA golfer.

No he isn't.

http://www.usga.org/rules-hub/amateur-status.html

[Lihu]

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Originally Posted by Lihu

Well, technically he is a golf "Professional". He because that when he took up the "career" of working towards becoming a PGA golfer.

No he isn't.

http://www.usga.org/rules-hub/amateur-status.html

Wow, I can't believe there is a technical meaning to "golf professional". . .good read. . .

[iacas]

Wow, I can't believe there is a technical meaning to "golf professional". . .good read. . .

This happens fairly often, @Lihu . Of course there are rules. That's how you know if you can compete as an amateur or if you're a professional.

Dan is not a professional golfer or a golf professional.

[natureboy]

You don't like the 5 degree slope theory?

Actually I think you may be half-right. I think he may be 'hitting up' with the driver face rotation so it is fairly square (vertically) to the AoA, but leaning toward the target with his upper body...no or little secondary axis tilt / covering the ball so he gets a low shot with little spin.

[Lihu]

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Originally Posted by Lihu

You don't like the 5 degree slope theory?

Actually I think you may be half-right. I think he may be 'hitting up' with the driver face rotation so it is fairly square (vertically) to the AoA, but leaning toward the target with his upper body...no or little secondary axis tilt / covering the ball so he gets a low shot with little spin.

Sounds like you might have found the root cause of his back issues. . .

[Mop Bucket]

If I had this kinda of time to dedicate to golf, I sure as hell wouldn't waste my time practicing like this. Golf is a package deal, you need it all to be clicking at once. I feel this kind of practicing just breeds bad habits.

[flopster]

IMHO, his work ethic is not exactly the strongest for a golfer. In my proposed schedule, I was including about 15 minutes time for breakfast, lunch and dinner (more time so he has time to make dinner/lunch for himself).

I practice and play about 3 hours per day while working full time, take time for my kids and family, fix stuff in my house(s). I sometimes don't eat breakfast and dinner, and when I do it's in between tasks. I sleep around 7 hours a day, and don't really have time to "relax". This is just an attempt to meet my relatively modest lifetime goal to get a solid swing. I like work and I like activities that take work to learn, and tend to think many other golfers think the same way.

If I were 20 years old, and my goal was to play in the PGA assuming I had the talent and was already a +2 to +4 something handicap, I would be practicing at least 10 hours a day working at least part time to pay the bills and or giving lessons to people to make extra cash. Relaxing and talking to friends for any significant amount of time away from golf would the last thing on my mind.

Professionals work more than us at it, and that's what it takes.

@Lihu you realize your saying you put in over 1000 hours a year working/playing on your golf game? Basically your within a few hundred hours of Dans current hour calculator.

[flopster]

Thanks both.

Only thing I noticed was the guy asking what his handicap is right now to which he didn't answer the first time. When asked again he said "I think it's about 3.7, 3.8 ........" It's 5.4 right now, hasn't been three point something for some time. Maybe he genuinely doesn't know what his handicap is right now. Anyone want to believe that?

I'm being harsh, he obviously didn't want to say but I think I'd have possibly told the truth as it's not exactly a hard thing to check.

No your not, Dan's being dishonest in order to deceive others about his progress, the difference between a 5.4 and a 2.4 is pretty significant and Dan should know better than to mislead the public about this, what makes this game above others is that we as golfers impose the rules and ethics upon ourselves to insure fair competition exists Dan needs to realize even a little white lie about his current progress is only that a lie.

[tdiii]

No your not, Dan's being dishonest in order to deceive others about his progress, the difference between a 5.4 and a 2.4 is pretty significant and Dan should know better than to mislead the public about this, what makes this game above others is that we as golfers impose the rules and ethics upon ourselves to insure fair competition exists Dan needs to realize even a little white lie about his current progress is only that a lie.

It was, quite simply, a blatant lie.  He knew he wasn't a 3.7 or 3.8, and he knew it wasn't even close.

[Lihu]

[QUOTE name="Lihu" url="/t/45853/the-dan-plan-10-000-hours-to-become-a-pro-golfer-dan-mclaughlin/3240#post_1157257"]   IMHO, his work ethic is not exactly the strongest for a golfer. In my proposed schedule, I was including about 15 minutes time for breakfast, lunch and dinner (more time so he has time to make dinner/lunch for himself). I practice and play about 3 hours per day while working full time, take time for my kids and family, fix stuff in my house(s). I sometimes don't eat breakfast and dinner, and when I do it's in between tasks. I sleep around 7 hours a day, and don't really have time to "relax". This is just an attempt to meet my relatively modest lifetime goal to get a solid swing. I like work and I like activities that take work to learn, and tend to think many other golfers think the same way. If I were 20 years old, and my goal was to play in the PGA assuming I had the talent and was already a +2 to +4 something handicap, I would be practicing at least 10 hours a day working at least part time to pay the bills and or giving lessons to people to make extra cash. Relaxing and talking to friends for any significant amount of time away from golf would the last thing on my mind. Professionals work more than us at it, and that's what it takes. [/QUOTE] @Lihu you realize your saying you put in over 1000 hours a year working/playing on your golf game? Basically your within a few hundred hours of Dans current hour calculator.

Now I'm depressed. . . Too bad my practice is not that effective. :~(

[k14]

@Lihu you realize your saying you put in over 1000 hours a year working/playing on your golf game? Basically your within a few hundred hours of Dans current hour calculator.

Not the first person to see he is prone to exaggeration! I'm sure he will be back with some clarification that still doesn't make sense to anyone but he.

[Lihu]

[QUOTE name="flopster" url="/t/45853/the-dan-plan-10-000-hours-to-become-a-pro-golfer-dan-mclaughlin/3240#post_1160513"] @Lihu you realize your saying you put in over 1000 hours a year working/playing on your golf game? Basically your within a few hundred hours of Dans current hour calculator. [/QUOTE] Not the first person to see he is prone to exaggeration! I'm sure he will be back with some clarification that still doesn't make sense to anyone but he.

Sure. . .no exaggeration. Just no talent. ;-)

[Lihu]

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