The Dan Plan - 10,000 Hours to Become a Pro Golfer (Dan McLaughlin)

[tdiii]

No your not, Dan's being dishonest in order to deceive others about his progress, the difference between a 5.4 and a 2.4 is pretty significant and Dan should know better than to mislead the public about this, what makes this game above others is that we as golfers impose the rules and ethics upon ourselves to insure fair competition exists Dan needs to realize even a little white lie about his current progress is only that a lie.

It was, quite simply, a blatant lie.  He knew he wasn't a 3.7 or 3.8, and he knew it wasn't even close.

[Lihu]

[QUOTE name="Lihu" url="/t/45853/the-dan-plan-10-000-hours-to-become-a-pro-golfer-dan-mclaughlin/3240#post_1157257"]   IMHO, his work ethic is not exactly the strongest for a golfer. In my proposed schedule, I was including about 15 minutes time for breakfast, lunch and dinner (more time so he has time to make dinner/lunch for himself). I practice and play about 3 hours per day while working full time, take time for my kids and family, fix stuff in my house(s). I sometimes don't eat breakfast and dinner, and when I do it's in between tasks. I sleep around 7 hours a day, and don't really have time to "relax". This is just an attempt to meet my relatively modest lifetime goal to get a solid swing. I like work and I like activities that take work to learn, and tend to think many other golfers think the same way. If I were 20 years old, and my goal was to play in the PGA assuming I had the talent and was already a +2 to +4 something handicap, I would be practicing at least 10 hours a day working at least part time to pay the bills and or giving lessons to people to make extra cash. Relaxing and talking to friends for any significant amount of time away from golf would the last thing on my mind. Professionals work more than us at it, and that's what it takes. [/QUOTE] @Lihu you realize your saying you put in over 1000 hours a year working/playing on your golf game? Basically your within a few hundred hours of Dans current hour calculator.

Now I'm depressed. . . Too bad my practice is not that effective. :~(

[k14]

@Lihu you realize your saying you put in over 1000 hours a year working/playing on your golf game? Basically your within a few hundred hours of Dans current hour calculator.

Not the first person to see he is prone to exaggeration! I'm sure he will be back with some clarification that still doesn't make sense to anyone but he.

[Lihu]

[QUOTE name="flopster" url="/t/45853/the-dan-plan-10-000-hours-to-become-a-pro-golfer-dan-mclaughlin/3240#post_1160513"] @Lihu you realize your saying you put in over 1000 hours a year working/playing on your golf game? Basically your within a few hundred hours of Dans current hour calculator. [/QUOTE] Not the first person to see he is prone to exaggeration! I'm sure he will be back with some clarification that still doesn't make sense to anyone but he.

Sure. . .no exaggeration. Just no talent. ;-)

[Lihu]

The latest news from the Dan Plan!

http://thedanplan.com/pacific-northwest-us-open-and-the-first-round-back/

[tdiii]

The latest news from the Dan Plan!

http://thedanplan.com/pacific-northwest-us-open-and-the-first-round-back/

17 days old.

[Lihu]

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Originally Posted by Lihu

The latest news from the Dan Plan!

http://thedanplan.com/pacific-northwest-us-open-and-the-first-round-back/

17 days old.

Well, I thought it was time Dan got more air time here again. . .

[Unkynd]

Was a good read. Would suck to miss almost an entire season of golf to an injury.

[bkuehn1952]

One has to wonder if this is how it ends.  Begin with the realization that one's finances are insufficient to really do everything necessary to succeed.  Then add in a degree of depression after the discovery that one's swing is nowhere near good enough to think about professional golf.  Finally, add a back injury that seems to defy any cure (massage therapy, chiropractic adjustment, rest).

At this point the blog has been virtually unused with just three (3) entries since May 4.  The number of comments has fallen off; perhaps a signal that everyone is losing interest?  Twitter has been silent (probably a good idea).  I half expect to find that the site has been taken down when I occasionally check.

[Nosevi]

One has to wonder if this is how it ends.  Begin with the realization that one's finances are insufficient to really do everything necessary to succeed.  Then add in a degree of depression after the discovery that one's swing is nowhere near good enough to think about professional golf.  Finally, add a back injury that seems to defy any cure (massage therapy, chiropractic adjustment, rest).

It could certainly be used as what we would refer to over here as a 'get out clause' - the injury was the reason it all came to an end, not the money or lack of talent (something I still believe to be a prerequisite for 'success' as defined by Dan's goal) etc. Whether it is a 'get out clause' or not I don't know and perhaps it's harsh to say it could be, but I was frankly shocked when Dan blatantly 'misled' about what his current handicap was in an attempt to cover up how his progress was going. Only UK national TV so maybe not important as pretty much no one over here has ever heard of the guy, but still a line I didn't think he would cross.

[Lihu]

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Originally Posted by bkuehn1952

One has to wonder if this is how it ends.  Begin with the realization that one's finances are insufficient to really do everything necessary to succeed.  Then add in a degree of depression after the discovery that one's swing is nowhere near good enough to think about professional golf.  Finally, add a back injury that seems to defy any cure (massage therapy, chiropractic adjustment, rest).

It could certainly be used as what we would refer to over here as a 'get out clause' - the injury was the reason it all came to an end, not the money or lack of talent (something I still believe to be a prerequisite for 'success' as defined by Dan's goal) etc. Whether it is a 'get out clause' or not I don't know and perhaps it's harsh to say it could be, but I was frankly shocked when Dan blatantly 'misled' about what his current handicap was in an attempt to cover up how his progress was going. Only UK national TV so maybe not important as pretty much no one over here has ever heard of the guy, but still a line I didn't think he would cross.

Where would you estimate his true handicap?

[Nosevi]

I wouldn't estimate it, I'd go to the online GHIN handicap lookup, enter His state and name and see precisely what his handicap is and was at the time of the interview. It wasn't what he said it was and hasn't been for quite some time.

[Lihu]

I wouldn't estimate it, I'd go to the online GHIN handicsp lookup, entre His state and name and see previsely what his handicap is and was at the time of the interview. It wasn't what he said it was and hasn't been for quite some time.

Current is 5.4 and 3.1 was the lowest. I'm always surprised when during an interview they say he's scratch.

[Pretzel]

Current is 5.4 and 3.1 was the lowest. I'm always surprised when during an interview they say he's scratch.

"3.1" was the lowest. Somehow I doubt he ever actually played to that level.

[Lihu]

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Originally Posted by Lihu

Current is 5.4 and 3.1 was the lowest. I'm always surprised when during an interview they say he's scratch.

"3.1" was the lowest. Somehow I doubt he ever actually played to that level.

He must have a really killer short game, and he got his handicap playing a single course. Might be possible?

[Nosevi]

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Originally Posted by Pretzel

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Originally Posted by Lihu

Current is 5.4 and 3.1 was the lowest. I'm always surprised when during an interview they say he's scratch.

"3.1" was the lowest. Somehow I doubt he ever actually played to that level.

He must have a really killer short game, and he got his handicap playing a single course. Might be possible?

Define "really killer short game".

His scrambling percentage over his last 5 rounds on golfshots is 23%. Over the last 20 it's 30%. Hitting green in reg on less than 50% of occasions and getting up and down, on average, somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of the time isn't going to equate to a 3 handicapper.

[RandallT]

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Originally Posted by bkuehn1952

One has to wonder if this is how it ends.  Begin with the realization that one's finances are insufficient to really do everything necessary to succeed.  Then add in a degree of depression after the discovery that one's swing is nowhere near good enough to think about professional golf.  Finally, add a back injury that seems to defy any cure (massage therapy, chiropractic adjustment, rest).

It could certainly be used as what we would refer to over here as a 'get out clause' - the injury was the reason it all came to an end, not the money or lack of talent (something I still believe to be a prerequisite for 'success' as defined by Dan's goal) etc. Whether it is a 'get out clause' or not I don't know and perhaps it's harsh to say it could be, but I was frankly shocked when Dan blatantly 'misled' about what his current handicap was in an attempt to cover up how his progress was going. Only UK national TV so maybe not important as pretty much no one over here has ever heard of the guy, but still a line I didn't think he would cross.

I thought this might be the end too, but guess what?! He's just posted something-->http://thedanplan.com/the-mend-is-steady-yet-slow/

Unless I missed something, it was mainly about how he has been out to play a couple times, but that the pain is still there. He's excited to be back and showing optimism.

Re: the misleading, Dan said his current handicap was high 3's at Chambers Bay during the US Open (June 2015). His GHIN reflects it was 5.4 for over a month before that. He should've been aware it jumped from high 3's to mid-5's by April 2015.  There's certainly no proof he was deliberately lying, but his answer was most definitely not the truth at that moment.

I did think this was an interesting snippet from his most recent blog post:

Would a draw swing be significantly different from a fade swing such that it would impact your lower back differently? I don't work on this much since I'm nowhere near good enough to go beyond the keys identified for me, but my understanding is that you simply adjust your aim and your club face- but the swing is mostly the same. Dan makes it seem like "dropping the club in the slot" creates a draw.

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Originally Posted by Nosevi

I wouldn't estimate it, I'd go to the online GHIN handicsp lookup, entre His state and name and see previsely what his handicap is and was at the time of the interview. It wasn't what he said it was and hasn't been for quite some time.

Current is 5.4 and 3.1 was the lowest. I'm always surprised when during an interview they say he's scratch.

In that interview, Dan said his lowest HI was 2.7. He was wrong again- it is actually 2.6 back in summer of 2014.

[bkuehn1952]

Timely check on his blog, RT.  He never really says he knows what is wrong.  He can't be blamed for not revealing medical info.  At the same time, placing the blame on his "draw swing" is a bit like blaming the pain in one's ankle on how one walks rather than the fractured bone.