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I've decided to put in a thread wherein people compare their average shots with what club. Now, I'm going to immediately call "Bullshit" on someone who claims they hit their drives "300 yards", because I've seen so many people claim it, and then they hit one that goes like...half that. Be honest, take the average of your shots, not the best of 10. If you miss, how do you usually miss, and what happens?

I'll go first.


Driver : Just got this about 2 weeks ago. If I nail it on the screws, I've killed shots about 270 down the middle (average: 250-ish) . 9 out of 10 times when I hit any of my clubs on the sweet spot, I'll have a draw, probably because of my strong grip. I take this club way past parallel, which is what I think gives me the range (up until a month ago I could barely drive 200).

If I miss, most often I'll come in too steeply on it trying to kill the ball, end result is a massive push-fade that usually flies out of bounds or a mile into the woods. Occasionally, I hit it thin and pull it, but then it also fades...so no harm done, 200-220 yards, in the fairway.

3 Wood : If I don't top the damn thing (I can't count how many times I kill the driver on a par 5 down the middle, then pull out the 3-wood and top the thing 10 feet), I'll usually slice it, 200-230 yards. I've flown the green from 210 yards, and landed on the next tee box (about 240) but I think that was a fluke.

5 Wood : I'll hit this about 200, maybe a bit more if I catch it good. Unlike the 3 wood, I don't top this nearly as often--but my shots are still usually pushed off to the right.

3 Iron : This club gets me out of a lot of trouble that my wild tee shots usually land me in, especially on longer holes. I can hit greens like a surgeon from 180+ yards, if I hit it out in the fairway, I'd wager 190. If I miss, it's usually a chunk...this applies to all of my irons. From the 4 Iron down to the pitching wedge, just subtract 10 yards for each club, and I have pretty much the same result (the misses are usually a chunk or fat shot).

However, sometimes with my shorter irons, from 7 on down, I have tendency to skull it as well. The pitching wedge is my second favorite club, after the driver, probably because I'm good at it. Of all my golfing buddies, I'm pretty much the only one who is almost guaranteed to hit a green from 50-150 yards. (Chipping is another story...we're all prone to skulling it and watching in frustration as the ball dribbles off the other end.)

I've havent had to hit the sand wedge hard yet on the course so I don't know my range, but on the driving range it'll go up a mile and out about 80 yards.

Shots from crappy lies, or from the sand, I usually have to club up one, sometimes two clubs. If it's plugged, my only chance is the sand wedge, reguardless of how far I am from the hole. From the deep rough, I'll club up two, sometimes three (Lost a brand-new Pro V1 to a lake, then I learned my lesson). I never "80 percent" my shots like people say to do, since that will land me short, in the greenside bunker. For every shot that's over, there's six that's not up...I'd rather be over in most cases.

Also, I've driven almost 150 yards with a putter before.

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Driver : I can plan on 260-270 pretty reliably. I've hit them 320 on level ground (albeit with a firm kick) before, but that's a rare occurrence. Last week I hit two that topped 290 and I was pleased as punch with them.

3 Wood : 230-235, depending on the shot. I like to draw this one, but when I do that I usually ease up a bit anyway. Today I hit one 260 with a little cut. Not enough of a cut, though, as I found myself pin-high left of the green in a little collection area. I usually hit it a little further from the fairway. Less backspin.

5 Wood : I don't have one. I have a 17° Titleist 585.H hybrid. I plan to hit it about 215-220, but I can add 10-20 yards to that if I must. It goes a bit higher than the 3W, obviously, but I can hit down on it a bit more if I need a little extra juice.

3 Iron : 210
4 Iron : 200
5 Iron : 185
6 Iron : 170
7 Iron : 155
8 Iron : 140
9 Iron : 125
PW : 110
SW : 90
LW : No idea. Probably 65 or so. I never hit this with a full swing.

For the driver, I usually have mostly carry. 10-15 yards of roll, tops. For the 3W on up, the numbers quoted are carry. My ball usually doesn't go very far forward or backward anyway.

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Driver : About 260. Solid shots can go 275+ but overall this is probably my least consistent club.
3 Wood : 230-240
3 Iron : 215
4 Iron : 205
5 Iron : 195
6 Iron : 175
7 Iron : 165
8 Iron : 155
9 Iron : 145
PW : 135
GW (52 deg.) : 125
SW 115
LW : Less then 90

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Driver: Average about 260-270. I've popped some 290's when I catch it just right, but I usually play a high fade that doesn't get much roll, so I rarely get it running.

3 Wood: 240-250

5 Wood: 220-230

Hybrid: around 210-215 on average

4-iron: 200
5-iron: 190
6-iron: 180
7-iron: 170
8-iron: 160
9-iron: 150
PW: 110-140 (my most versatile club, distance-wise)

SW: 100-110
LW: 80-90 (I rarely full-swing my lob wedge, though)

Putter: anywhere from 2ft shorter to 3ft longer than I want it to go.

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I've decided to put in a thread wherein people compare their average shots with what club. Now, I'm going to immediately call "Bullshit" on someone who claims they hit their drives "300 yards", because I've seen so many people claim it, and then they hit one that goes like...half that. Be honest, take the average of your shots, not the best of 10. If you miss, how do you usually miss, and what happens?

I am waiting for you to call bullshit but I do hit the driver around 300 yards average. In my defense, I did compete at the Pinnacle exceptional driver contest finals in Laughlin, Nevada last year and hit 9 out of 13 measured drives over 320. And that was with my regular length Ping G5 driver.

So here it goes: Driver: 300 yards or so. I get invited to a lot of scrambles because of this. 3 Wood: 265 yards or so. Maybe a bit farther off a tee. 2 iron hybrid: 250 yards This is my club I use when I have to be in the fairway. 3 iron: 235 yards 4 iron: 215 yards 5 iron: 200 yards 6 iron: 190 yards 7 iron: 180 yards 8 iron: 167 yards 9 iron: 155 yards P wedge: 145 yards s Wedge: 125 yards tops Lob Wedge: 100 yards tops because I do not ever go full out hitting it. Mind you I do live at altitude so maybe a 1/2 club less at sea level. My driver distance is not all that affected though as my distances at Laughlin were at 500 feet or so above sea level.

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Best thing I ever got was a range finder because it really helps to drill down the distances at the range.

Driver - 275+, I wil usually get one or two per round up around or over 300yds
3W - 250, 265+ off the tee
5W - 230
3I - 210
4I - 200
5I - 190
6I - 180
7I - 170
8I - 160
9I - 150
PW- 140
GW- 130
SW- 120
LW- 110

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Not as long as Id want to be. I've been working out 4 days a weeks for the last month so i hope that translates into a few more yards. If we're talking dry, spring, summer conditions..

Driver- Its not uncommon for me to hit a 300 yarder or 2 during a round if the fairways are firm. average around 260-270 due to consistency/accuracy issues.

3 wood- Im taking it out of my bag because the launch is too low off the deck. goes around 240-250 (on the screws)

5 wood- this is my favorite club in my bag, I can nuke it 240.

5 iron- 185 with my 690.cb's. They're a club shorter than alot of the irons ive played. 10 yard gaps, inbetweens most clubs.

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Driver --- 265 on avg (fig 250-280)
3wd --- 230
hybrid --- 215
4i --- 200
5i --- 185
6i --- 170
7i --- 160
8i --- 150
9i --- 140
pw --- 130 max (I usally don't swing full with wedges)
52* --- 100
56* --- 70
60* --- 50???
In the bag.....
Burner Superfast
G10 3wd UST V2
hybrid
MP-32 CG10/11 52*,56*,58*,60* wedges Squareback Pro V1Bushnell 1500 Pinseeker T.E. laser range finderBushnell Neo GPS

Posted
Seems like I'm a lot shorter so far this year.

D: 250-260
3W: 225
3i: 200
4i: 190
5i: 175
6i: 160
7i: 150
8i: 140
9i: 130
PW: 120
GW: 105
SW: 85
LW: no clue- 60?

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Driver (new Taylor made Buerner, Xstiff, 9.5) --- 270-290, a few roll to 310 or so. A few others end up in bad places, like houses, streets, etc.
3 wood: 240 (R-7 draw. Nice club)
2Hybrid- 210-220- like a missile-very straight.
4Hybrid: 190-200- high and lands soft.
5i --- 180
6i --- 165
7i --- 155
8i --- 145
9i --- 130
pw --- 120
AW --- 100-110
SW --- 85-95 (tend to use a pw with smaller swing instead of pressing)
60 Lob- --- 30-50- would hit bigger club for more, small swing.

Posted
Driver: 260
5 Wood: 230
7 Wood: 210
4 Iron: only use for getting out of trouble (low trajectory)
5 Iron: 180
6 Iron: 170
7 Iron: 160
8 Iron: 145
9 Iron: 130
P Wedge: 120
48* Wedge: 110
52* Wedge: 90/100
60* Wedge: not sure, just in sand, and close to the green

In My Bag:
Driver: TaylorMade Burner 9.5* Stock Stiff
5 Wood: TaylorMade V-Steel Aldila NV Stiff
7 Wood: TaylorMade V-Steel Stock Steel
4-PW: TaylorMade R7XD Stock Stiff Steel48* Wedge: Callaway Forged52* Wedge: Founders Club60* Wedge: Founders ClubPutter: Odyssey DFX 6600Balls: Titleist ProV1 & DT SoLo


Posted
I usually don't even hit driver, but here goes nothin.

Driver- 260+ if it's straight (BIG IF)
4 Wood- 230
19* Hybrid- 215
3 iron- 200
4 iron- 190
5 iron- 180
6 iron- 170
7 iron- 160
8 iron- 150
9 iron- 140
PW- 130
GW- 110
LW- 80

Everything depends on whether I'm hitting off of a tee obviously, and if we're couting roll on the long to mid irons. These are basic distances though.

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I know somebody is going to call bullshit on this so let me explain before I ever start with distances. I played tennis and baseball in highschool. I was a "power hitter" in both sports and they both require the same fast hands and timing as golf. Because of those "fast hands" my misses tend to be snap hooks and I have been working with a pro to slow my self down and drop a club or so for distances. I used to hit a PW anywhere from 120 to 160, which makes it hard to hit many greens. So here are my new distances. Feel free to call bullshit if you want. Also these are at my elevation of 3800 ft. I lose a full club or so at sea level.


Driver: 300 avg. I have driven a few par fours that measure closer to 340.
3 wd : 275 I almost always play this off the tee unless it's an open par 5
5 wd: 260 my most consistant club off the tee. nice high draw that usually finds fairway.
3 ir: 250 (I know, call bullshit)
4 ir: 235
5 ir: 220
6 ir: 200
7 ir: 185
8 ir: 170
9 ir: 155
PW: 140
54': 120
LW: 100

I know I'm going to have people calling me a liar, but I'm pretty sure I'd say I was better than a 9.6 handicap if were making it up. My problem is that inside 100 yards what do I hit? That's what the local pro and I are working on is slowing down the iron swings and controling the distance better to be more consistant.

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Driver R7 SuperQuad 8.5 Xstiff
5 Wd SQ X stiff steel
3-PW RAC LT X stiff 52 dg RAC TP Satin56 dg RAC TP Satin60 dg Vokey Oil CanPutter Cameron Studio Newport


Posted
Time for at least one middle aged short hitter to post.

avg carrry, total average, max distance
1w 195-200, 215, 235
3w 185-190, 195, 205
3h 175-180, 180, 190
4h 165-170, 170, 175
5I 155-160, 160, 165
6I 145-150, 150, 155
7I 135-140, 138, 145
8I 120-125, 125, 130
9I 110-115, 115, 118
pw 98-102, 100, 105
gw 85-90, 87, 95
sw 72-75, 75, 80
lw 55-60, 55, 60

Yes I can hit if farther using driving range distances, but I have made a real effort to establish my distance at effort levels I am comfortable with on the course. I feel knowing your carry and maximums is more important than average. Trouble behind the green Pin at 120 I will go with the 9I, trouble in front with 110 yard carry to a 120 yard pin I will hit the 8.

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4 and 5H, 6I-GW Callaway Razr, SW, LW Cleveland Cg-14, Putter Taylor Made Suzuka, Ball, Srixon XV Yellow


Posted
I'm going to put in carry because roll is dependant

905T - 265-270
X TOUR- ???? just got it and havent hit it yet
F-50 - 225-230
3I - 210-215
4I - 200
5I - 190
6I - 180
7I - 170
8I - 160
9I - 150
PW- 140
51* - 125
55* - 110
58* - 95
SC - 10' too short or too long

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Driver: 260-270 pretty constant. I can usually count on a couple of 280-290 per round.

3 Wood: 230-250. I struggle with consistency with my 3 wood. I've been fighting the urge to replace it, but I think its coming.

Hybrid (2 iron): 220-240 This is my go to. If I'm struggling off the tee I will use this and get the planets back into alignment.

3 Iron: 220
4 Iron: 205
5 Iron: 195
6 Iron: 180
7 Iron: 165
8 Iron: 155
9 Iron: 145
PW: 130
GW: 115
SW: 100
Driver - TaylorMade R9 460 10.5°
3 Wood - TaylotMade Burner Tour
3 & 4 Hybrids - Adams a7
Irons - R7 tp 5-PW
Wedges - Vokey SM Black Nickel - 52º - 56º - 60ºPutter - Scotty Cameron California - SonomaSkyCaddie - SG4Lowest Round - 68 - Par 72 /67.6/120Lowest Tournament Round - 69 -...

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Driver - typically about 260, but I can crank it out to 290 if I really need to... or I'm really angry.

5W - 220

5H (25°) - 190

8I - 140

PW - 110

Rick

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Driver: 265-270 (usually 250 carry) with a draw.
3 Wood: 230-240 draw.
5 Wood: 220 (all carry) draw.
3 Iron: 195
4 Iron: 185 I don't normally hit my irons at 100% to try to control my ball better.
5 Iron: 175
6 Iron: 165
7 Iron: 155
8 Iron: 140
9 Iron: 125
50: 110
54: 90
58 : 75

I have some gaps but I think my PW looks like a lollypop so I go with my 50 degree vokey.

Driver: Ping Rapture V2 9° TFS Stiff | 3 wood: Exotics CB 15° Fujikura HL Stiff | Hybrids: Adams Idea Tech V3 16° Stiff, TM Burner Rescue 19° & 22° REAX Stiff | Irons: Titleist 735.CM DG S300 5-PW | Wedges: Vokey Oil Can 254.10, 258.08 | Putter: Rossa Imola 34"


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