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Or Sensory Awareness! I'm looking forward to getting back onto the fairways this season and working hard on some fun awareness exercises that quickly improve my golf swing. There are many that I use but my favourite is probably the drill I call, 'seeing the arc'. I usually do this with a nine iron at first and start by swinging the club without a ball. At first I intentionally don't make contact with the turf and swish the club slightly above it. My first task is to be aware of the path the club head is following. For me this is 'In to Out' and I will adjust this until its something between 3-5°. I will then turn my attention to the club face and heighten my awareness by specifying if the face is open prior to impact and progressively closing through this arc. Once I can pick up these fine details, I will begin swishing my club through the turf and expect to see the path and face details every bit as clear. Normally this takes at most 5-10 swings to master and I also get up to my desired swing speed. I now add a ball to the equation and also use some feedback numbers. I take a practice swing and from 1-5 rate how well I was able to see the arc through impact with the grass and also the club head conditions. With the practice swing this is normally a 5. Now I address the ball, take a swipe at it and what usually happens is my awareness for seeing these two conditions drops to a 1 or 2. What's wrong with my eyes? The swing without a ball, I can see everything crystal clear but with it as part of the process, I begin experiencing levels of blindness. Why? Its simple really, my concentration has been diverted to swing results, e.g. the ball's flight, instead of what I intend to experience. I do however persevere and before too long I can see the arc clearly with the ball. When I get to this stage my ball striking reaches very satisfactory levels. However, have I been working on improving my swing? Definitely! I have subconsciously given my body the task of creating a swing path between 3-5° in to out and of being alert to the angle of the club face through impact. As I am a sweeper, any deep divots will obscure the clarity of these conditions.This drill is a very effective learning tool and because a high level of awareness is required, deep lasting learning takes place. I have been working with these awareness drills for many years and I also use them when I am playing on the course. This video has some good slow motion stuff with a driver and nine iron showing the arc and conditions I am able to see at top speed... [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t122Y0SuRi8[/video] P.S. There is also some rubbish on it but the slow motion stuff is OK

LMAO....I think this going to be a really fun thread!!

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Yea I do this all the time too.  I sometimes push the wrong button on my disembobulator doo dad configuratior and accidently gives me xray vision instead of slow motion.  Might have to send it back to get another one.

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Wow, what a fantastic way to spend 3:36. Very enlightening, which part was the rubbish bit again?

You know, Fred Shoemaker wrote a pretty interesting book about this type of approach, but somehow he managed to do it without coming off as an a-hole.

You need to work on your delivery, and I'm not talking about your golfswing.

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You mean watching his swing in slow motion over and over didn't teach you anything?  Also that backswing is a little to upright might want to flatten it some.

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Yea I do this all the time too.  I sometimes push the wrong button on my disembobulator doo dad configuratior and accidently gives me xray vision instead of slow motion.  Might have to send it back to get another one.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! I think you would be a good candidate for my new best friend, not! [quote name="Ernest Jones" url="/t/57098/see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-feel-no-evil#post_699743"] Wow, what a fantastic way to spend 3:36. Very enlightening, which part was the rubbish bit again? You know, Fred Shoemaker wrote a pretty interesting book about this type of approach, but somehow he managed to do it without coming off as an a-hole. You need to work on your delivery, and I'm not talking about your golf swing. [/quote] The rubbish part was your reply, a little bit of constructive feedback would be less time wasting. Fred wrote two books on this actually and also Timothy Gallwey. Was my delivery too complicated for you or unclear? I'm not sure which part makes me sound like you, (an a-hole). [quote name="poser" url="/t/57098/see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-feel-no-evil#post_699777"] You mean watching his swing in slow motion over and over didn't teach you anything? [/quote] Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Please will you be my best friend!


Enjoy your thread.

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Whoa down on the crack pipe there. Somebody needs to go outside and play some golf.

Good grief I want to tear my eyes out after reading your threads.

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how in gods name is this guy still around?

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Or Sensory Awareness!My first task is to be aware of the path the club head is following. For me this is 'In to Out' and I will adjust this until its something between 3-5°. I will then turn my attention to the club face and heighten my awareness by specifying if the face is open prior to impact and progressively closing through this arc. Once I can pick up these fine details, I will begin swishing my club through the turf and expect to see the path and face details every bit as clear.

So you can see an angle of 3º different from parallell at the point where you would hit the ball by the swish of a club through the grass? A clubhead moving at perhaps 90 miles per hour. And the face angle of the club during the swing? At which point is it 3º? At the start, some part in the middle, toward the end, or just a medium of the entire swish?

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Whoa down on the crack pipe there. Somebody needs to go outside and play some golf. Good grief I want to tear my eyes out after reading your threads.

You're right I do need to get onto the course but I don't understand why you would want to tear your eyes out. [quote name="Hoganwoods" url="/t/57098/see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-feel-no-evil#post_699840"] how in gods name is this guy still around? [/quote] What? Do I want to know you? [quote name="Zeph" url="/t/57098/see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-feel-no-evil#post_699842"] So you can see an angle of 3º different from parallell at the point where you would hit the ball by the swish of a club through the grass? A clubhead moving at perhaps 90 miles per hour. And the face angle of the club during the swing? [/quote] Yes 3-5° but its not an exact science. I land shots with my 9 iron at a 125 metre marker on the driving range but I don't lose sleep if its really only 122 metres. I tend to swing too much from in to out and my simple aim is to reduce this path to less than 5°. I have carried out plenty of NJF exercises with this drill and am fairly accurate at estimating this path. Its not difficult to see at even the fastest of club head speeds. Seeing open or closed face angles are quite clear once you get the hang of blocking out other non specified criteria. I see more precise criteria than this with this drill [quote name="Zeph" url="/t/57098/see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-feel-no-evil#post_699842"] At which point is it 3º? At the start, some part in the middle, toward the end, or just a medium of the entire swish? [/quote] You're obsessed with 3° although I clearly said somewhere between 3-5°, you do however seem happy to accept the exact directions issued in the NBFL. I hope I have at least made this simple awareness drill clearer. [quote name="Ernest Jones" url="/t/57098/see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-feel-no-evil#post_699785"] Enjoy your thread. [/quote] Enjoy your life.


how in gods name is this guy still around?

Every time I see a new thread with his name on it I have the exact same thought. Thing is when he is banned he creates aliases and posts that way. So it is one of those things where it is better to deal with the devil you know rather than the devil you don't. One thing is for sure, you must admire Patrick's sticktoitiveness.

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Nice video with pictures of snow covered mountains what does this thread have to do with golf?

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I dont really mind, it's just funny and he's one very determined guy..

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No you don't.

Originally Posted by mchepp

One thing is for sure, you must admire Patrick's sticktoitiveness.



"The expert golfer has maximum time to make minimal compensations. The poorer player has minimal time to make maximum compensations." - And no, I'm not Mac. Please do not PM me about it. I just think he is a crazy MFer and we could all use a little more crazy sometimes.

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No you don't.

Hi Phil, That's the nicest thing you've said about me. [quote name="mchepp" url="/t/57098/see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-feel-no-evil#post_699877"] Every time I see a new thread with his name on it I have the exact same thought. Thing is when he is banned he creates aliases and posts that way. So it is one of those things where it is better to deal with the devil you know rather than the devil you don't. One thing is for sure, you must admire Patrick's sticktoitiveness.[/quote] The world has approximately 60 million golfers, you are not going to bump into a lot of Patrick57's [quote name="newtogolf" url="/t/57098/see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-feel-no-evil#post_699881"] Nice video with pictures of snow covered mountains what does this thread have to do with golf?  :whistle: [/quote] This thread and the video are about golf. Doh! :doh: [quote name="Hoganwoods" url="/t/57098/see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-feel-no-evil#post_699884"] I dont really mind, it's just funny and he's one very determined guy.. [/quote] Some would say that I suffer from OCD! Many of the threads on TST are dull, some are just answered with a link to another thread, many are - yawn - about equipment, but my threads are a little out there. E.g. I would definitely have won the Kickstarter award for March if I hadn't been banned and Penalty boxed for most of the month. To rub salt into my wounds, they even locked my favourite and most viewed threads. I enjoy discussing golf and as far as I know there isn't a better board on the internet for doing this than TST. I'm sure if you all keep complaining about my opinions I will probably get banned again but after next Friday, if my course is open by then, my presence will be very infrequent. I work all day every day. Believe it or not my students enjoy learning from 'inside-out.'




Originally Posted by Patrick57

Some would say that I suffer from OCD!

my presence will be very infrequent.


OCD, BDD, Tourrettes, Post-traumatic Stress Disorder, Schizophrenia,Depression and panic attacks. I think you have more going on there.

Don't threaten us with your future absence.

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OCD, BDD, Tourrettes, Post-traumatic Stress Disorder, Schizophrenia,Depression and panic attacks. I think you have more going on there. Don't threaten us with your future absence.

You are a very strange man. Breathe and relax. Now sit down!


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