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Mr3Wiggle Great Member

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Originally Posted by iacas

I'm almost positive that's not true. He gets to drive wherever. Most of the cart paths are where spectators will be, after all. They're not making him drive and park his cart among spectators. :P

I also read it's a specially designed one seat golf cart.  So it seems his caddy will still be walking behind him.

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I voted Yes but admit that if the PGA would have permitted him to ride it would have to draft a detailed standard to apply to claimed disability situations and some kind of panel or arbitrator to deal with the claims.  That wouldn't be pretty.

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Originally Posted by zipazoid

LOAT?

Andy North.

Hey, it's US Open week.


Hubert Green, Lee Janzen and some 2 time major winners (and countless 1 major winners) all say hey what about me???

Players play, tough players win!

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Golfingdad Incredible Member

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I noticed yesterday that Casey Martin also uses a long putter.  And not the somewhat subtle belly putter where it looks like a normal putting stroke, but the really silly looking old guy (and Adam Scott) one-hand-low-and-other-hand-way-up-by-the-chin kind.

Considering the volatility of this thread and the "ban long putters" thread, I would think this would make some peoples heads explode.

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Mr3Wiggle Great Member

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Originally Posted by Golfingdad

I noticed yesterday that Casey Martin also uses a long putter.  And not the somewhat subtle belly putter where it looks like a normal putting stroke, but the really silly looking old guy (and Adam Scott) one-hand-low-and-other-hand-way-up-by-the-chin kind.

Considering the volatility of this thread and the "ban long putters" thread, I would think this would make some peoples heads explode.

Between the putter and the cart he's stealing 3 a side.

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Golfingdad Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by Mr3Wiggle

Between the putter and the cart he's stealing 3 a side.

Ha!  In all seriousness though, I believe that the controversy will be magnified to an unfathomable degree if he contends.  I voted yes he should get the cart, but I admit that I voted with my heart, and also "knowing" that it's not really going to matter much because it's not like he's going to be there past Friday anyway.

But man, if he were to go on and win?  Holy cow!  Crazier things have happened, right?  Or not, this would probably take the cake.

If that happened, I think I'd want to go back and change my vote.

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Ernest Jones Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by Golfingdad

I noticed yesterday that Casey Martin also uses a long putter.  And not the somewhat subtle belly putter where it looks like a normal putting stroke, but the really silly looking old guy (and Adam Scott) one-hand-low-and-other-hand-way-up-by-the-chin kind.

Considering the volatility of this thread and the "ban long putters" thread, I would think this would make some peoples heads explode.

I also heard he'll be using iron covers...

Yours in earnest, Jason.
Call me Ernest, or EJ or Ernie.

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Mr3Wiggle Great Member

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Originally Posted by Golfingdad

Ha!  In all seriousness though, I believe that the controversy will be magnified to an unfathomable degree if he contends.  I voted yes he should get the cart, but I admit that I voted with my heart, and also "knowing" that it's not really going to matter much because it's not like he's going to be there past Friday anyway.

But man, if he were to go on and win?  Holy cow!  Crazier things have happened, right?  Or not, this would probably take the cake.

If that happened, I think I'd want to go back and change my vote.

If he wins, it would be one of the best things ever.  I'm pulling for him all the way.  I'm just speculating, but seeing how he hobbles around I think he's just as whipped at the end of a round just having to support his body weight while standing as the rest of the field is walking the course.

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3H:  Callaway Razr X, 4H:  Callaway Razr X
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Originally Posted by Ernest Jones

I also heard he'll be using iron covers...

Clearly a move to help the resale value of his irons.

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3W:  Callaway GBB II 12.5*, 5W:  Callaway Diablo 18* Neutral
3H:  Callaway Razr X, 4H:  Callaway Razr X
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Originally Posted by Mr3Wiggle

If he wins, it would be one of the best things ever.  I'm pulling for him all the way.  I'm just speculating, but seeing how he hobbles around I think he's just as whipped at the end of a round just having to support his body weight while standing as the rest of the field is walking the course.

Oh, no doubt ... probably more.

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BallStriker Great Member

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Would it be illegal for a caddy to carry a player on his back throughout the round (a la piggyback ride)?  If that is not expressly prohibited under the rules (or, alternatively, if the rules expressly require that one walk the course himself -- which they don't), I have a hard time understanding that walking the course is a fundamental part of the game.

Hmmmmmmmmm............

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Yes. He's good enough to play at that level. The crap about playing in the NFL or allowing people to play from 2,000 yards is just a stupid argument. He's playing the exact same golf course he just can't walk in between shots. Yeah it might be a bit of help to not have to walk if it's hot or hilly but I think at the end of the day it all comes down to who shoots the lowest round.

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Ernest Jones Incredible Member

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I've changed my mind (but not my vote) about five times on this issue. Great topic and really compelling arguments on both sides. Imagine the uproar if he WINS!!

Yours in earnest, Jason.
Call me Ernest, or EJ or Ernie.

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jamo Incredible Member

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Imagine the uproar if he WINS!!

The asterisk will be so large it will be like it never happened.

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David in FL Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by Mr3Wiggle

Quantify this advantage and then you might have a leg to stand on.

Certainly you don't dispute that there is an advantage, quantifiable or not, to riding, do you?

Let's face it, if riding didn't provide him a benefit over walking, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

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3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
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David in FL Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by jamo

The asterisk will be so large it will be like it never happened.

I agree.  And that would be a shame......

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
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xmanhockey7 Dedicated Member

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Originally Posted by jamo

The asterisk will be so large it will be like it never happened.

I really don't think so.

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I really don't think so.

Yeah I don't know why I worded it that way. But the asterisk will be HUGE.

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