My Swing (Patrick57)

[iacas]

Who would claim this to be their golf swing if it wasn't?  I mean if you were going to falsely claim a golf swing on the internet, would you really claim this god awful one?

That's funny. :-)

[Mr3Wiggle]

He appears to be having a bowel movement at P4.

[GaijinGolfer]

Originally Posted by Mr3Wiggle

Who would claim this to be their golf swing if it wasn't?  I mean if you were going to falsely claim a golf swing on the internet, would you really claim this god awful one?

Could you imagine if you went somewhere for lessons, saw someone with that swing and then they walked over to you and said, "Hi, Im so and so and I'll be your teacher today."  Id be like, "Ummmm....is there someone else I can work with???"

[Clambake]

Originally Posted by TitleistWI

Could you imagine if you went somewhere for lessons, saw someone with that swing and then they walked over to you and said, "Hi, Im so and so and I'll be your teacher today."  Id be like, "Ummmm....is there someone else I can work with???"

Maybe this is what one can get in Austria for instruction - it would explain why the pro tour ranks aren't filled with great Austrian golfers.

[GaijinGolfer]

Originally Posted by Clambake

Maybe this is what one can get in Austria for instruction - it would explain why the pro tour ranks aren't filled with great Austrian golfers.

Remind me not to take golf lessons in Austria...

[mdl]

Originally Posted by TitleistWI

Wow.  Now I find it REALLY hard to believe that Patrick is a golf instructor.  If Patrick is an instructor then I guess I should go get my tour card. LOL

Ha. Pretty much what I was thinking.  For all the smack he talks and the very high regard he has for himself and his golf playing and coaching ability, I expected at least a swing that looked like an old school home grown swing that might not be pretty or perfect but clearly was solid and from a talented player.

That is one weak, ugly, hacker swing with pretty much nothing going right.  The armsy swing and huge flip is SO beginner.  Where is that 74 average coming from?  Do they only have 5,000 yard par 72 courses with no rough, no trees, no traps, no hazards, no hills, and dead flat greens in Austria?  Even then a 74 average would require a lights out short game with that as the full swing...

[Kapanda]

I don't understand what you guys mean by him "flipping at it". Could someone please explain it to me?

[inthehole]

rather than having clubhead lag behind the hands at impact - flipping means the club face is at least equal to or ahead of the hands.    It's a natural tendency that has to be fought - better players always lag the clubhead to compress the ball - I rarely get that feeling, but it's easy to tell when you do - it's almost better than sex & you'll overshoot the green by 25 yards  ...

[Golfingdad]

Originally Posted by Kapanda

I don't understand what you guys mean by him "flipping at it". Could someone please explain it to me?

Originally Posted by inthehole

rather than having clubhead lag behind the hands at impact - flipping means the club face is at least equal to or ahead of the hands.

Scroll up to Iacas' avatar to see the opposite of flipping - basically the impact position we all shoot for.

[Kapanda]

ahh! Right! Thanks! I know exactly what you're talking about now!

[GaijinGolfer]

Originally Posted by mdl

Ha. Pretty much what I was thinking.  For all the smack he talks and the very high regard he has for himself and his golf playing and coaching ability, I expected at least a swing that looked like an old school home grown swing that might not be pretty or perfect but clearly was solid and from a talented player.

That is one weak, ugly, hacker swing with pretty much nothing going right.  The armsy swing and huge flip is SO beginner.  Where is that 74 average coming from?  Do they only have 5,000 yard par 72 courses with no rough, no trees, no traps, no hazards, no hills, and dead flat greens in Austria?  Even then a 74 average would require a lights out short game with that as the full swing...

Keep in mind though, thats a 74 for 9 holes.

[B-Con]

I don't doubt that swing could shoot a 74 on a par-60 executive course. Given a lot of tries.

[mdl]

Originally Posted by TitleistWI

Keep in mind though, thats a 74 for 9 holes.

Ha. I missed the 9 holes bit!  His high self-regard makes even less sense...

[GaijinGolfer]

Originally Posted by mdl

Ha. I missed the 9 holes bit!  His high self-regard makes even less sense...

I mean, would YOU take lessons for a guy who shoots a 148??? LOL

[Patrick57]

I mean, would YOU take lessons for a guy who shoots a 148??? LOL

[quote name="mdl" url="/t/58950/my-swing-patrick57/18#post_726660"] Ha. I missed the 9 holes bit!  His high self-regard makes even less sense... [/quote] [quote name="B-Con" url="/t/58950/my-swing-patrick57/18#post_726313"]I don't doubt that swing could shoot a 74 on a par-60 executive course. Given a lot of tries.[/quote] [quote name="GaijinGolfer" url="/t/58950/my-swing-patrick57/18#post_726049"] Keep in mind though, thats a 74 for 9 holes. [/quote] I'm glad you all noticed the 74 for 9 holes bit. I can be an amusing guy sometimes. To clarify... My home course is a 9 hole, 3,400 par 36 and I usually shoot 34 to 39 depending on my putting. I often play the course with beginners and use only my 9 iron and average 45 shots this way. I have been teaching full time for 15 years and have yet to meet a better scorer than myself. I'm sure Rory, Tiger, Luke and Lee would whip my ass, but I haven't met or played against them. My student's appreciate my coaching abilities and admire my shot making talents. I think your comments are non-constructive and a little bitter. I like my swing and its very effective, P.S. [SIZE=4][SIZE=5][COLOR=FF00AA][COLOR=FF00AA][COLOR=FF00AA] ITS NICE TO BE NICE![/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR][/SIZE][/SIZE]

[Limpinswinger]

Originally Posted by Patrick57

I live in a big house with my three bitch slaves.

I think you're right about procrastinating, my toenails are turning yellow and mouldy. Perhaps a shower will do the trick.

Thanks for the advice.

P.S. Will this sort out my swing problem too?

BTW, only one actual comment on fixing my swing and that wasn't very helpful!

I have decided to change my name to

Patrick57_the troll from Tirol

It seems you've pissed a few people off around here, Patrick.

I'll stay out of it and just offer my 2 cents. The 3 pictograms look like 3 intentionally different swings.  The first one looks best to me.  You rotate nicely around your spine, clear your hips at contact, and keep your head close to directly over the ball.  The third one is not bad, but, you don't clear your hips as well.  In the second, you sway off of the ball in the backswing and never recover from there.  However, in all 3 swings, it seems that your left elbow is slightly bent at contact.  IMO, unless you are guarding against re-aggrivating some kind previous hyperextention injury, it should be straight.  I suspect that you are guarding against hitting fat and end up hitting thin, as you say.  In the video, it sounds like you hit slightly fat despite hitting an iron off of a tee.  That was probably from swaying off of the ball in your backswing.

Beautiful driving range, BTW.

[Patrick57]

It seems you've pissed a few people off around here, Patrick.

Yeah, I'm kind of an ass hole. They are right to treat me the way they do, because I've lied and made a fool of myself - in order to irritate others - several times. [quote name="Limpinswinger" url="/t/58950/my-swing-patrick57/18#post_730570"] I'll stay out of it and just offer my 2 cents. The 3 pictograms look like 3 intentionally different swings. The first one looks best to me. You rotate nicely around your spine, clear your hips at contact, and keep your head close to directly over the ball. The third one is not bad, but, you don't clear your hips as well. In the second, you sway off of the ball in the backswing and never recover from there. [/quote] The first and third is with 9 iron and the middle one is with the driver. I think the difference between the two iron swings is that I have flipped the wrists at impact in the third and therefore this my hips don't clear properly. My left arm extension with the driver swing in the second sequence is pityful to say the least. I do however believe that I have set my spine angle more away from the target at address and don't really sway in the backswing phase. [quote name="Limpinswinger" url="/t/58950/my-swing-patrick57/18#post_730570"] IMO, unless you are guarding against re-aggrivating some kind previous hyperextention injury, it should be straight. [/quote] 10 years ago, I had a motorbike accident and tore my left shoulder rotator cuff which severely restricts my backswing. I can control my left arm extension better with shorter shafted clubs but the driver seems to get away from me. I can however still hit a nice 240 yard draw with the second swing sequence. [quote name="Limpinswinger" url="/t/58950/my-swing-patrick57/18#post_730570"] I suspect that you are guarding against hitting fat and end up hitting thin, as you say. In the video, it sounds like you hit slightly fat despite hitting an iron off of a tee. That was probably from swaying off of the ball in your backswing. [/quote] I often tee up on our driving range because of the very sandy lie and extremely short grass. The video is also based on extreme face angle conditions and shouldn't apply to any analysis. BTW, it's nice to receive some constructive feedback and for that I am very grateful.

[mdl]

I like Patrick's forum status/title.

Is Patrick's whole time on this forum a long, ironic, performance art joke?  Did he find a smug looking guy with a s**t swing just so he could then post that ridiculous swing, claim that a silly pose beforehand disproved the laws of physics, and then brag about how he usually breaks par with the swing of a player who breaks 100 only on his lucky days?