5SK Video Thread

[mvmac]

Bubba Watson ain't got nothing on this shoulder turn!

Yea, he writes in the book that his front foot is flared and his rear is square, despite pictures and video showing otherwise.

Although, IIRC, he explicitly stated that both feet square was not a good thing. I'll have to look later to confirm.

To be fair I would say on iron shots his right foot was pretty square (from the videos I've seen). He definitely flared it on longer clubs though (below). I'm a big fan of foot flares but I will say that it's not "required" to flare you rear foot in order to perform an effective backswing. It just makes a few things much easier. The benefits that come with flaring the rear foot: centered hip turn, turning the hips steep enough, banking the right foot on the downswing, Hogan didn't need "help" with this stuff.

[nevets88]

This video demonstrates why we prefer to see foot flares in most of our students.

How much is overdoing it? Is say 30* the max for either foot for someone of average flexibility?

[mvmac]

How much is overdoing it? Is say 30* the max for either foot for someone of average flexibility?

Yes, shouldn't go over 30-35 degrees

[CarlSpackler]

Finally made it through this entire thread. Lot's of good stuff here. The trick is putting it all in perspective. I don't want to down the entire medicine cabinet at once. Great work guys!

[Hammer 4]

Key for me is to only work on 1 or 2 pieces, and not at the same time, also do them Really Slow, and do a bunch of reps on each piece to ingrain those feelings into your normal swing. For me, it's taken almost 6 months to finally get a couple of those keys somewhat part of my swing, then again, I'm Not a fast learner..lol

[CarlSpackler]

Key for me is to only work on 1 or 2 pieces, and not at the same time, also do them Really Slow, and do a bunch of reps on each piece to ingrain those feelings into your normal swing. For me, it's taken almost 6 months to finally get a couple of those keys somewhat part of my swing, then again, I'm Not a fast learner..lol

Still working on flaring per @mvmac . Thought I had it until I reviewed the last video.

[Hammer 4]

Still working on flaring per @mvmac. Thought I had it until I reviewed the last video.

Ha, took me awhile to get the foot flare thing down, now it come natural..but, I still check my foot position all the time, just to be sure. It does help with my hip and shoulder turn, so definitely worth doing.

[Jakester23]

Im struggling with key 2. I Just can't seem to get a feel for it. When I was working on key 1 I had the feel that my head was going down a little even though it wasn't that's what l felt. So far for #2 nothing. I seem to be able to do it on the range but I don't do it on the course.

[Hammer 4]

Im struggling with key 2. I Just can't seem to get a feel for it. When I was working on key 1 I had the feel that my head was going down a little even though it wasn't that's what l felt. So far for #2 nothing. I seem to be able to do it on the range but I don't do it on the course.

Same here. Have you tried the Hips Forward Preset drill..? Really helps with feeling the weight forward, I actually hit a few full shots last night at the range doing that drill. The vid should be in Key #2 somewhere..Give it a try.

[CarlSpackler]

Ha, took me awhile to get the foot flare thing down, now it come natural..but, I still check my foot position all the time, just to be sure. It does help with my hip and shoulder turn, so definitely worth doing.

Definitely. My turn seemed more "free".

[iacas]

Still working on flaring per @mvmac. Thought I had it until I reviewed the last video.

Please help me understand something (and hopefully take this as generally inquisitive): why are you "working on" a setup position?

You just do it, don't you? What's to "work on"?

I sometimes ask students how much athletic skill setting up properly takes… the correct answer is "none." You just have to remember to do it, and I suppose to occasionally check yourself in the mirror (or if it's your feet, look down, which you're doing anyway).

Why are you "working on" something that you should just say "okay, what else?" and remember to do it every time? Help me understand. If you can explain it, maybe I can learn something and better help students.

[14ledo81]

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Originally Posted by CarlSpackler

Still working on flaring per @mvmac. Thought I had it until I reviewed the last video.

Please help me understand something (and hopefully take this as generally inquisitive): why are you "working on" a setup position?

You just do it, don't you? What's to "work on"?

I sometimes ask students how much athletic skill setting up properly takes… the correct answer is "none." You just have to remember to do it, and I suppose to occasionally check yourself in the mirror (or if it's your feet, look down, which you're doing anyway).

Why are you "working on" something that you should just say "okay, what else?" and remember to do it every time? Help me understand. If you can explain it, maybe I can learn something and better help students.

I realize this was not directed at me, but I feel I am "working on" posture/setup stuff.  I understand that it is something I can remember to just do.  I work on it by leaving a mirror and golf club in the living room of my house.  Every time (or most times) I walk by, I pick up the club, setup, and look in the mirror to check.  Sometime I have to make a minor tweak, but it gets better each time.

I guess to summarize, I would like to "work on" it until it feels natural, and I know I am setting up correctly every time without having to think about it or check the mirror.

[Jakester23]

Same here. Have you tried the Hips Forward Preset drill..? Really helps with feeling the weight forward, I actually hit a few full shots last night at the range doing that drill. The vid should be in Key #2 somewhere..Give it a try.

If it's the one where you bank your back foot yes I have. Mike told me to preset my hips a little forward for my driver and that has helped with my driver. Im not sure if im supposed to do that for all my clubs so I haven't been.

[Hammer 4]

If it's the one where you bank your back foot yes I have. Mike told me to preset my hips a little forward for my driver and that has helped with my driver. Im not sure if im supposed to do that for all my clubs so I haven't been.

Here's the link to the vid. Sorry should have included it before..

http://purestrike5sk.com/videos.php#video_playback

[CarlSpackler]

Please help me understand something (and hopefully take this as generally inquisitive): why are you "working on" a setup position?

You just do it, don't you? What's to "work on"?

I sometimes ask students how much athletic skill setting up properly takes… the correct answer is "none." You just have to remember to do it, and I suppose to occasionally check yourself in the mirror (or if it's your feet, look down, which you're doing anyway).

Why are you "working on" something that you should just say "okay, what else?" and remember to do it every time? Help me understand. If you can explain it, maybe I can learn something and better help students.

It's more a matter of breaking old habits. I set up with my feet square for so long, it still feels natural. When I start thinking of something else and not focusing on that, BAM! When I looked at my last video, I liked other things that I saw, but noticed that my feet were back to almost square. "Working on it" is making it the "new norm" if that makes sense.

[CarlSpackler]

I realize this was not directed at me, but I feel I am "working on" posture/setup stuff.  I understand that it is something I can remember to just do.  I work on it by leaving a mirror and golf club in the living room of my house.  Every time (or most times) I walk by, I pick up the club, setup, and look in the mirror to check.  Sometime I have to make a minor tweak, but it gets better each time.

I guess to summarize, I would like to "work on" it until it feels natural, and I know I am setting up correctly every time without having to think about it or check the mirror.

I do the exact same thing, but without the mirror. I still need to make a trip to Ikea to get one. Planning to build a mirror wall in the Drum room / Man-cave.

[14ledo81]

Quote:

Originally Posted by 14ledo81

I realize this was not directed at me, but I feel I am "working on" posture/setup stuff.  I understand that it is something I can remember to just do.  I work on it by leaving a mirror and golf club in the living room of my house.  Every time (or most times) I walk by, I pick up the club, setup, and look in the mirror to check.  Sometime I have to make a minor tweak, but it gets better each time.

I guess to summarize, I would like to "work on" it until it feels natural, and I know I am setting up correctly every time without having to think about it or check the mirror.

I do the exact same thing, but without the mirror. I still need to make a trip to Ikea to get one. Planning to build a mirror wall in the Drum room / Man-cave.

That would be nice.  You could hit foam balls at it as well.

[CarlSpackler]

That would be nice.  You could hit foam balls at it as well.

I get in trouble when I take divots in the carpet. ;-)