Number of 5SK Earned vs. Handicap

[iacas]

Originally Posted by Stretch

Hmmm. Where you gon' find one a dem?

A long-time good senior player. Heck what's Jack Nicklaus' handicap these days? Arnie might be a 15-handicap five-key player. There are going to be outliers - that's all I'm sayin'. :)

Originally Posted by Stretch

PS: I like the plot very much, although I'm not sure anyone ever really "gets" 4 & 5 100%* at the same time, except for short stretches, during which they win majors!

Yeah, the sample sizes for those were pretty small. Dave will tell you that when he has Key 5 he will shoot 66, and when he doesn't he'll shoot 71 to 75.

Originally Posted by MacDutch

Is the first key also the most easy key, fifth most difficult?

And what's the best HCP without a key and with only one?

Best without? 19. Best with just one? 11.

Do you mean Key #1 or "the first key" (which is often Key #1)? The first key is the easiest yes, but at the same time once you get Key #1, Key #2 gets easier for some and more difficult for others (ask Zeph), but once you have Keys #1 and #2, Key #3 often falls into place more easily than either #1 or #2. Some also have an easy time with #4, but then get hung up on #5 for the rest of their lives.

[boogielicious]

All this just makes me want to work harder at it.

Damn you! :)

[mvmac]

That graph could sell more units than all your other advertising combined.

2 keys pretty much guarantees you become one of the best golfers you know!

That's definitely a great way to look at it.  Obviously short game plays a factor into becoming a single digit but the graph is accurate.  If you can consistently do Keys #1 and 2, you're going to hit it pretty good compared to most golfers.  And your misses will be more salvageable than most golfers.  Also if you can do the first two Keys well, then your Key#3 probably isn't that far off.  Would be pretty rare to see a bogey golfer with Keys #1 and 2, excluding senior players and even then :-)

Originally Posted by Stretch

Hmmm. Where you gon' find one a dem?

PS: I like the plot very much, although I'm not sure anyone ever really "gets" 4 & 5 100%* at the same time, except for short stretches, during which they win majors!

Yeah like Erik said, good senior players, guys that were really good players in the 60's, 70's.  Grew up with a few of those guys, awesome partners in money games.

[mchepp]

Originally Posted by dsc123

To my eye, Mchepp looks like the winner.

I like the way you are thinking!!!

[iacas]

Originally Posted by mchepp

I like the way you are thinking!!!

You have a license to Scorecard already, don't you? If so I'll see what else I can arrange...

[Brakkus]

I do like how the 5 keys are broken down as golf does get too hung up on the technical. I think a lot of the finer details happen as a result of these keys,very easy to understand.

I'm no regular golfer but do practice in my net and garden and the range regulary. I'm assuming that the keys relating to handicap mean you own those keys. I know that 1&2 I can do most of the time. Key 3 is one I struggle with,4 isn't bad either my ballflight tells me that and my mechanics and 5 I haven't even bothered to practice much apart from short game shots where a little bit of invention goes a long way. That's a very high level of golf anyway.

I certainly don't own any key but am close to doing so and if I can play more golf I would improve quite quickly but I'm not even a weekend warrior at the moment,just a bi-monthly player,hence my handicap. I need more time on the course but I feel you could play great golf if you were above 90% on the first 4 keys. Don't know how that would relate to handicap with that percentage but if it's only one poor shot every 10 swings and that poor shot is relative to that level,then as has been summised by Erik it's a low handicap golfer.

[mchepp]

You have a license to Scorecard already, don't you? If so I'll see what else I can arrange...

Man, I missed this post. Yes, I have a license to scorecard. Had it for 2 years now, love it. Can't wait to see what you come up with.

[Ernest Jones]

Just looking for some general opinions here:

If one had to choose between buying the 5sk DVDs or spending the equivalent money on three months of evolvr which do you think would be more beneficial? I have very limited funds but I really want to give myself the best opportunity to improve this year.

[boogielicious]

Do Evolvr.  They will be instructing you with the 5 Simple Keys anyway.  The instruction will be specific to your needs.

[mvmac]

If you had to choose one, I agree with spending the money on Evolvr.  Great value for having some really great instructors take a look at your swing, have them identify what Key(s) you need and how to go about it.

[Ernest Jones]

Originally Posted by mvmac

If you had to choose one, I agree with spending the money on Evolvr.  Great value for having some really great instructors take a look at your swing, have them identify what Key(s) you need and how to go about it.

Thanks. That's kinda what I was thinking too. I'm guessing that the "my swing videos" from my basement are inadequate for anaylsis. Assuming that's true 'll need to wait another 2-4 weeks before the ranges open

As far as price plans for evolvr, do understand correctly that I can choose the monthly option with no minimum length? IE: I don't need to use it for a year to benefit from the monthly rate? Could I use it for 3 months and cancel without any penalty? I only ask because a big portion of the year is lost to snow and ice and I dont want to be locked into something I can't use.

Thanks.

[iacas]

Originally Posted by Ernest Jones

Thanks. That's kinda what I was thinking too. I'm guessing that the "my swing videos" from my basement are inadequate for anaylsis. Assuming that's true 'll need to wait another 2-4 weeks before the ranges open

As far as price plans for evolvr, do understand correctly that I can choose the monthly option with no minimum length? IE: I don't need to use it for a year to benefit from the monthly rate? Could I use it for 3 months and cancel without any penalty? I only ask because a big portion of the year is lost to snow and ice and I dont want to be locked into something I can't use.

Thanks.

No, you're not locked in to anything. Cancel after two months if you like.

Let's keep this thread on the topic though, please. Feel free to ask evolvr questions in the evolvr threads or by sending a PM.