My Swing (cipher)

[14ledo81]

Ooohhh.. Just thought of something. Probably not a lot of bow shooting going on with that wrist either huh? That wrist needs to be healed come fall.....:-)

[cipher]

I've been just on the dry swings in the back yard regimen recently, but I've been doing this drill a lot, and even with two hands on the club am trying to concentrate on the right hand driving the swing, with the left hand only there for stabilization.  I think you could play passably this way!

Yeah I probably could in a couple more weeks.  I feel like in a normal swing for me both hands work at driving the club down.  Not really sure if this is good or bad, but I don't really feel one is much more dominant than the other.

Your one handed swing looks better than my 2 handed swing.

Nate

(11.5) (2H) MIURA MB-101(3-PW) (52/56/60)

  

[14ledo81]

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Originally Posted by 14ledo81

Ooohhh..

Just thought of something.

Probably not a lot of bow shooting going on with that wrist either huh?

That wrist needs to be healed come fall.....

It is a good thing that I have a new "Mission by Mathews" crossbow then.

Somehow I thought that would be your answer....

[cipher]

Somehow I thought that would be your answer....

Lol.

[cipher]

Appointment made with a hand specialist for a week from today.  I am a bit concerned about the progress being made after two weeks.  I really don't have much more mobility than I initially had and something just does not feel right to me in the injured portion just at and above the wrist.  I want to get his thoughts on timing and rebuilding the injured area as well.  I can tell at this point that this is not going to just be four weeks in a splint and then I can start making some light swings a couple days later.  I will have to be much more careful than that.  Still trying to be positive about it, but at the same time the reality is this is going to linger on a bit longer than I was hoping for.

[GolfLug]

Appointment made with a hand specialist for a week from today.  I am a bit concerned about the progress being made after two weeks.  I really don't have much more mobility than I initially had and something just does not feel right to me in the injured portion just at and above the wrist.  I want to get his thoughts on timing and rebuilding the injured area as well.  I can tell at this point that this is not going to just be four weeks in a splint and then I can start making some light swings a couple days later.  I will have to be much more careful than that.  Still trying to be positive about it, but at the same time the reality is this is going to linger on a bit longer than I was hoping for.

What did the X-ray look like originally?

[Ernest Jones]

Totally sucks bro. I hope it all works out and you get to play some golf before that bitch winter returns.

[cipher]

What did the X-ray look like originally?

That is the main reason I am going to see a specialist.  The doctor down in Florida saw me for just a few minutes and basically gave me a splint and sent me on my way. No x-rays taken.

Totally sucks bro. I hope it all works out and you get to play some golf before that bitch winter returns.

I sure hope so and I think I will...at least, that is what I am telling myself.

[cipher]

X-ray came back negative for any bone issues.  I kinda figured that much.  He basically thinks it is an inflamed ECU tendon, and it likely could have popped out of its sheath basically.  If I am understanding that correct.  He gave a cortisone shot to calm things down and he thought I should be good to go by next week.  If it does come back multiple time I could end up having to have surgery at that point.  I will take this all as maybe good news with a lot of caution.  No way does this thing feel like I can start playing golf anytime soon.  However, I will give it rest through all of next week as originally planned and then see If I can hit some pitches and putts after that.

[iacas]

X-ray came back negative for any bone issues.  I kinda figured that much.  He basically thinks it is an inflamed ECU tendon, and it likely could have popped out of its sheath basically.  If I am understanding that correct.  He gave a cortisone shot to calm things down and he thought I should be good to go by next week.  If it does come back multiple time I could end up having to have surgery at that point.  I will take this all as maybe good news with a lot of caution.  No way does this thing feel like I can start playing golf anytime soon.  However, I will give it rest through all of next week as originally planned and then see If I can hit some pitches and putts after that.

Good luck.

Tendons are weird. Sometimes if you fix them, they're good to go, AFAIK. It was a weird situation that caused the injury, too: I don't think I've ever heard of someone being injured by thinning a long iron.

[cipher]

Good luck.

Tendons are weird. Sometimes if you fix them, they're good to go, AFAIK. It was a weird situation that caused the injury, too: I don't think I've ever heard of someone being injured by thinning a long iron.

It must have just been the extreme speed that the club head was traveling at.  My wrist just could not take it.  I had to have been swinging that 4 iron at least 50mph.

I actually think it was just something that gradually happened over time and that is just what finally popped it.

[GolfLug]

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Originally Posted by cipher

X-ray came back negative for any bone issues.  I kinda figured that much.  He basically thinks it is an inflamed ECU tendon, and it likely could have popped out of its sheath basically.  If I am understanding that correct.  He gave a cortisone shot to calm things down and he thought I should be good to go by next week.  If it does come back multiple time I could end up having to have surgery at that point.  I will take this all as maybe good news with a lot of caution.  No way does this thing feel like I can start playing golf anytime soon.  However, I will give it rest through all of next week as originally planned and then see If I can hit some pitches and putts after that.

All things considered, surely good news.

[cipher]

All things considered, surely good news.

Yeah, I just really hope he is correct in what he is saying.

[iacas]

Yeah, I just really hope he is correct in what he is saying.

Get a fifth opinion!

[cipher]

Get a fifth opinion!

I am good with the second.

[georgep]

I had a nasty case of tennis elbow, a form of tendinitis (aka inflamed tendons), a few years ago. Since it sounds like your issue is similar, you may want to look into finding a good neuromuscular masseuse. That helped me much more with my tendinitis than the cortisone shots and electro-stimulation PT did for me. I was back in business in about a month, after enduring the tendinitis for almost a year.

[cipher]

Just doing some homework on this injury @poser .

The ECU tendon passes through a fibro-osseous tunnel (the sixth extensor compartment) as it leaves the forearm, lying within a bony groove on the dorsal surface of the ulna. It is maintained within this groove by a retinaculum and subsheath. The structural integrity of the tendon and the fibro-osseous tunnel are essential for normal wrist mechanics and function.

Golf

The wrist is a frequent site of injury in amateur as well as professional golfers, although injuries involving the ECU tendon specifically have been poorly documented. The precise incidence and prevalence in golf is unclear. Most published reports are questionnaire surveys undertaken in heterogeneous golfing populations with very low response rates and retrospective in nature. 10

A survey of the entire competitive field of 153 professional golfers during the 2009 European PGA Tour reported an incidence of wrist injury in 30% (in production at BJSM ). Twelve cases affected ECU (8%), eight of these were inflammatory problems of the tendon and tendon sheath. There were four cases of ECU subluxation, three of which occurred acutely after a traumatic episode. There was one case of bilateral constitutional sheath laxity.

All cases of traumatic ECU subluxation occurred in the ‘leading’ wrist (the wrist that faces the target). The ‘leading’ wrist moves from radial deviation to a neutral position at impact. At this point, the momentum of the golf club is trying to force the ‘leading’ wrist into ulnar deviation. The ECU tendon contracts isometrically to counteract this effect as the club is brought through impact to the end of the golf swing. If the club strikes a hard object on the ground at impact, the momentum of the swing is suddenly interrupted. The upper body and upper limbs continue to move forwards, while the golf club (and hands) are effectively ‘left behind’. This creates a ‘traumatic hinge’ into the radial deviation of the ‘leading’ hand. This force combined with the strong isometric contraction of the ECU muscle can result in failure of the subsheath with subsequent subluxation of the ECU tendon. This is perceived as a ‘popping’ or ‘tearing’ sensation on the ulnar side of the wrist that is usually sudden and painful.

The remaining group of tour golfers reported less dramatic symptoms diagnosed as ECU tendinopathy. This was associated with the use of hard practice mats or playing off excessively hard ground.

Another questionnaire survey was undertaken on the Ladies European PGA Tour, and included 104 professional golfers (response rate > 90%) (John Stanley, personal communication). There was an incidence of wrist injury of 54%. No information on specific location of symptoms or diagnosis was given, although the ‘leading’ hand was involved three times more frequently. It is likely that the ECU tendon disease represents a significant proportion of these cases.

It seems a huge part of getting better from ECU injuries in particular is not trying to do too much too soon.  I will probably wait until the 6 week mark to try much of anything golf related at this point.  Even though it still feels much better in the actual wrist area after the cortisone shot the tendon above the subsheath going up the arm still feels like it wants to pop out again.

[Jakester23]

Just doing some [URL=http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/47/17/1105.full]homework[/URL] on this injury @poser .

[SPOILER=ECU Tendon Injuries(Images from a right hand it looks like)]

The ECU tendon passes through a fibro-osseous tunnel (the sixth extensor compartment) as it leaves the forearm, lying within a bony groove on the dorsal surface of the ulna. It is maintained within this groove by a retinaculum and subsheath. The structural integrity of the tendon and the fibro-osseous tunnel are essential for normal wrist mechanics and function.

Golf

The wrist is a frequent site of injury in amateur as well as professional golfers, although injuries involving the ECU tendon specifically have been poorly documented. The precise incidence and prevalence in golf is unclear. Most published reports are questionnaire surveys undertaken in heterogeneous golfing populations with very low response rates and retrospective in nature. 10

A survey of the entire competitive field of 153 professional golfers during the 2009 European PGA Tour reported an incidence of wrist injury in 30% (in production at BJSM ). Twelve cases affected ECU (8%), eight of these were inflammatory problems of the tendon and tendon sheath. There were four cases of ECU subluxation, three of which occurred acutely after a traumatic episode. There was one case of bilateral constitutional sheath laxity.

All cases of traumatic ECU subluxation occurred in the ‘leading’ wrist (the wrist that faces the target). The ‘leading’ wrist moves from radial deviation to a neutral position at impact. At this point, the momentum of the golf club is trying to force the ‘leading’ wrist into ulnar deviation. The ECU tendon contracts isometrically to counteract this effect as the club is brought through impact to the end of the golf swing. If the club strikes a hard object on the ground at impact, the momentum of the swing is suddenly interrupted. The upper body and upper limbs continue to move forwards, while the golf club (and hands) are effectively ‘left behind’. This creates a ‘traumatic hinge’ into the radial deviation of the ‘leading’ hand. This force combined with the strong isometric contraction of the ECU muscle can result in failure of the subsheath with subsequent subluxation of the ECU tendon. This is perceived as a ‘popping’ or ‘tearing’ sensation on the ulnar side of the wrist that is usually sudden and painful.

The remaining group of tour golfers reported less dramatic symptoms diagnosed as ECU tendinopathy. This was associated with the use of hard practice mats or playing off excessively hard ground.

Another questionnaire survey was undertaken on the Ladies European PGA Tour, and included 104 professional golfers (response rate > 90%) (John Stanley, personal communication). There was an incidence of wrist injury of 54%. No information on specific location of symptoms or diagnosis was given, although the ‘leading’ hand was involved three times more frequently. It is likely that the ECU tendon disease represents a significant proportion of these cases.

[/SPOILER] It seems a huge part of getting better from ECU injuries in particular is not trying to do too much too soon.  I will probably wait until the 6 week mark to try much of anything golf related at this point.  Even though it still feels much better in the actual wrist area after the cortisone shot the tendon above the subsheath going up the arm still feels like it wants to pop out again.

With how early it is in our season there is no reason to rush it. Heck it looks like it's going to rain for the next 5 days. Just make sure your ready for the Newport event and Erin. Patience is a virtue