2013 Presidents Cup Discussion Thread

[iacas]

  joekelly said:

The November skins games were more thrilling than this stuff. Ryder Cup has no money on offer for the 'athletes', rather like college football.  What about the Prez Cup?  Any money for winning?  If not, we need to question what these guys are doing, and why.  To me, it's all hype, branding and marketing; no real sport.  These guys are professionals, not amateurs, and are motivated, driven and measured by $$$$$$$$.

Pretty sure you have a minority opinion. We have meaningful golf in September and now October. And I've seen how much even Presidents Cup matches matter to players… they have money. Money doesn't motivate as much as simply wanting to win can. For your team. Your country. Yourself.

[jamo]

  joekelly said:

The November skins games were more thrilling than this stuff. Ryder Cup has no money on offer for the 'athletes', rather like college football.  What about the Prez Cup?  Any money for winning?  If not, we need to question what these guys are doing, and why.  To me, it's all hype, branding and marketing; no real sport.  These guys are professionals, not amateurs, and are motivated, driven and measured by $$$$$$$$.

You think Tiger's motivated by money at this point? Phil? Rory? Three guys who could sit at home the rest of their lives and live off their savings. They don't seem to have a problem motivating themselves to win tournaments.

[mvmac]

  jamo said:

You think Tiger's motivated by money at this point? Phil? Rory?

Tiger is, he had to give most of it to Elin!

  Blitz28179 said:

I cant understand why the most exciting golf only happens one time a year(ryder cup and presidents cup)..I really think team golf is alot more exciting to watch than stroke play.

The team aspect is a nice change, especially at the end of the year.  I look forward to it, fun to see guys paired up rooting for each other.  There's always a chance for some great celebrations

  joekelly said:

The November skins games were more thrilling than this stuff. Ryder Cup has no money on offer for the 'athletes', rather like college football.  What about the Prez Cup?  Any money for winning?  If not, we need to question what these guys are doing, and why.  To me, it's all hype, branding and marketing; no real sport.  These guys are professionals, not amateurs, and are motivated, driven and measured by $$$$$$$$.

The best players continue to play and work on their games because they love to win and compete.  In terms of measurement, winning is what matters most for the HOF, not money.

[Jeremie Boop]

  Blitz28179 said:

Looks like they are staying in the cheapest hotel in town lol

?? I hope that's a joke or you don't know what a cheap hotel really looks like rofl!

[Stretch]

I really like the Louis/Charl v. Phil/Keegan match. Both sets of players bring out the best in each other.

[RonTheSavage]

Tiger was seen on the practice green today with a Superstroke putter grip on his Nike Method 001 putter today. It was a Superstroke slim not as big as Dufner's grip, but double the size, and 6 grams heaver than Tiger's old Ping grip. Guess we'll find out soon if this is permanent.

[newtogolf]

  joekelly said:

The November skins games were more thrilling than this stuff. Ryder Cup has no money on offer for the 'athletes', rather like college football.  What about the Prez Cup?  Any money for winning?  If not, we need to question what these guys are doing, and why.  To me, it's all hype, branding and marketing; no real sport.  These guys are professionals, not amateurs, and are motivated, driven and measured by $$$$$$$$.

True athletes are motivated by competition and the opportunity to prove they are the best.  These guys already have enough money to live off of the rest of their lives if they wanted to live a more modest life style, even Jordan Spieth made $3M this year as a part-time tour member.   Tiger and Phil don't play for money they are playing for their legacy.

[iacas]

  RonTheSavage said:

Tiger was seen on the practice green today with a Superstroke putter grip on his Nike Method 001 putter today. It was a Superstroke slim not as big as Dufner's grip, but double the size, and 6 grams heaver than Tiger's old Ping grip. Guess we'll find out soon if this is permanent.

He's routinely "tried" different things. He only occasionally actually switches.

This may be a "switch" time or just a "trying it out" time… we'll have to wait and see.

[Mulligan Jeff]

You struck upon the key word newtogolf - when Phil won the Open Championship he knew he was three quarters complete toward the Career Slam. I'll bet he would barter half of his regular tour victories for one US Open. That would be his legacy.

[Blitz28179]

  Jeremie Boop said:

?? I hope that's a joke or you don't know what a cheap hotel really looks like rofl!

To me its looks like a holiday express LOL

[Jeremie Boop]

  Blitz28179 said:

To me its looks like a holiday express LOL

You and I have different views of "cheap hotels"....

[mvmac]

Keegan's Team USA shoes

[Crim]

Ugliest shoes ever?

On another note....last time I checked the weather for tomorrow...it was looking pretty sketchy. Rainouts are the worst :(

[phan52]

  joekelly said:

Originally Posted by joekelly

The November skins games were more thrilling than this stuff. Ryder Cup has no money on offer for the 'athletes', rather like college football. What about the Prez Cup? Any money for winning? If not, we need to question what these guys are doing, and why. To me, it's all hype, branding and marketing; no real sport. These guys are professionals, not amateurs, and are motivated, driven and measured by $$$$$$$$.

Originally Posted by iacas

Pretty sure you have a minority opinion. We have meaningful golf in September and now October. And I've seen how much even Presidents Cup matches matter to players… they have money. Money doesn't motivate as much as simply wanting to win can. For your team. Your country. Yourself.

The branding and marketing aspect of the Ryder and Presidents Cup has a lot more to do with the tours than the players which, in turn, will turn into more money for everybody. I am also pretty sure that the majority of the players (if not all) have generous bonus deals with their sponsors for qualifying for these events.

[RonTheSavage]

  mvmac said:

These are hard to look at, Im actually getting angry just looking at them. So I assume MJ is some honorary coach/advisor of some sort? If he is I wonder if he's wearing Cargo Chorts???

[Jeremie Boop]

I'm going to guess there is no way to watch this live online unless you can use golf channel online? Wish they would do it like the players did where they had live coverage for free, that was nice.

[Zeph]

  Jeremie Boop said:

I'm going to guess there is no way to watch this live online unless you can use golf channel online? Wish they would do it like the players did where they had live coverage for free, that was nice.

Not the best quality, but it works.

http://www.wiziwig.tv/competition.php?part=sports&discipline;=golf

[iacas]

I'd recommend against doing anything illegal please.