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I've been Playing Golf for: 2 Years

My current handicap index or average score is: High 80s

My typical ball flight is: High Fade

The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: FAT SHOTS


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  tmac20 said:
The one thing that stuck out to me is that your backswing does not reach close to parallel.

That's not always important. Take, for example, J. B. Holmes.

A backswing that reaches parallel often has breakdowns in the wrists and elbow(s). I'm more concerned with amount of torso turn and arm travel.

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It's tough to tell from this one video.  Backswing looks pretty darn nice to me, but the thing I saw was it appears you are starting the downswing with your hands/arms/shoulders rather than a weight shift with the lower part of your body.


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Thanks all for the replies!  Iacas could you please further explain what you mean by torso turn and arm travel?  Are you saying I don't do enough torso turn and too much arm travel?  And guisppe, you are right!  I am trying to work on starting the downswing with my lower body.

Thanks again!

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Cocking your wrists will help, I think.

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  Golfer20 said:

Iacas could you please further explain what you mean by torso turn and arm travel?  Are you saying I don't do enough torso turn and too much arm travel?

I don't think Iacas was  commenting on your swing but rather responding to  TMAC's suggestion that you were not parallel at the top (i.e. Iacas does not think you necessarily need to get parallel with the club).  Your torso turn and arm travel is quite good.  In fact it looks a lot like Tiger's in the two photos posted by Tmac!


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  guiseppe said:

I don't think Iacas was  commenting on your swing but rather responding to  TMAC's suggestion that you were not parallel at the top (i.e. Iacas does not think you necessarily need to get parallel with the club).  Your torso turn and arm travel is quite good.  In fact it looks a lot like Tiger's in the two photos posted by Tmac!

Yes, exactly. If the wrists are allowed to cock/hinge a little bit more, you'll get closer to parallel, but you've turned your torso far enough and your arms have traveled quite far, too, so you don't need to try to keep turning more or anything like that.

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Ok guys thanks a ton for the replies.  Here is a picture of my impact position...  One thing that stuck out to me is that my right heel is coming off the ground quite a bit...  Also it does appear as if I am flipping?

Thanks again!

Sorry for the absolutely terrible quality...

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Yes, you sure are flipping it in your photo. Jim Mclean calls that  a "death move" that has to be fixed and it is one of the 5 keys of the instructors here.   You should look at the 5sk videos on "flat left wrist" at impact.


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  Golfer20 said:

Ok guys thanks a ton for the replies.  Here is a picture of my impact position...  One thing that stuck out to me is that my right heel is coming off the ground quite a bit...  Also it does appear as if I am flipping?

Thanks again!

Sorry for the absolutely terrible quality...

1st, your weight is not forward, its back. The back heel usually comes off the ground because your weight is not on your front foot. Your right foot is turning to keep you standing up. Imagine if we erased your right leg from the image, (right leg as in your right leg, not the right leg as in the one on the right in the image). Do you think you would be standing up right? I think you would fall over.

Yes your flipping. The clubhead will be passing the hands way before the ball. Usually flipping is a by product of a non steady head, and not enough weight forward. Its so you don't bury the club in the ground way before the ball. Though sometimes that is common as well if some other factors pop up. Heavy and thin shots are very much caused by the same overall problems. Why alot of people say, they hit both fat and thin shots.

http://thesandtrap.com/t/61376/5sk-video-thread/90#post_836200

check out that video, make sure when your doing it, your head isn't moving all over the place.

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  Golfer20 said:

Sorry for the absolutely terrible quality...

Early release can be caused by several different things. It's impossible to diagnos by a picture and or a full speed swing. I suggest you consult a local teaching pro and or download the V1 Pro app and video your swing. A slow motion example is easier to pinpoint where the breakdown occurs, but more, what is causing the early release. Personally, my early release has been explained to me as a turn issue. My body doesn't clear properly - shifting into line vs. down the line - and my hands begin to release at the 7 o'clock position to catch up and reach the ball. Result is high ball flight. In your PW swing above, your head appear's still and you finish nicely on your left side. I like your tall, even shoulder finish position. Your swing looks good for a 2 year player. You are on your way to much lower scores! Enjoy. Amac

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Hi guys I have been working on all the advice given and I have also taken some lessons here and there.  I like to think that my swing has improved.  What do you guys think?  Is there anything else you think that I am doing wrong?

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Looks like you're still a little flippy. Might be something you could change by addressing the ball differently. Maybe see if setting up with your hands further in front of the ball helps out (That's what I did to fix my issue)

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You on the left, Adam Scott on the right. Notice how Adam's hands are more out infront of his chest. Also his right arm doesn't raise up, and his left arm is straighter. You stop your shoulder turn and then you raise your arms vertically allowing them to break down.

Check out this video on how to shorten the backswing, and also keep the hands in a good position in the backswing, keeping that left arm straighter.

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