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A little crossover with TV, Stranger Things.

 

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I read more than a few posts in social media it might be over for Woods, without any hard evidence other than his performance at The Masters, this says the otherwise.

 

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Woods playing with his son, Charlie, in PNC Challenge December. If you've seen the vids on social media (Charlie), you know it's a pretty good swing.

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Tiger Woods will have one more chance to win a title this year. The 15-time major champion and winner of a record-tying 82 PGA Tour events, will...

 

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2 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Woods playing with his son, Charlie, in PNC Challenge December. If you've seen the vids on social media (Charlie), you know it's a pretty good swing.

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Tiger Woods will have one more chance to win a title this year. The 15-time major champion and winner of a record-tying 82 PGA Tour events, will...

 

That's gotta be so fun for them!

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2 minutes ago, iacas said:

That's gotta be so fun for them!

Is Charlie going to be the youngest participant in that event? I've only watched a few and the youngest kid I saw was probably in university.

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Just now, nevets88 said:

Is Charlie going to be the youngest participant in that event? I've only watched a few and the youngest kid I saw was probably in university.

John Daly Junior has played for a few years.

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I wonder since he's 11, how are they going to handle distance?

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Father and son side by side at the range.

 

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This already aired, Nov 29th, but I guess they'll replay it.

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I recorded it, I think. I saw it was on, and then there was a later showing at midnight or something. I should have it, I think.

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Foley says he thinks he may have overcoached Woods.  There's no full copy of the interview online, it's only in the print edition if I'm reading it correctly and is a UK publication so probably hard to find in the US.

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    “Looking back on it now, I think I probably over-coached him. I was there at a time when he needed someone to support him.

    It was a time in his life when a lot of people who’d been in his life for a long time started to ditch him. I think, unfortunately, I approached it from the point of view that good technique will take care of everything."

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“Honestly, sometimes I giggle to myself when I think about it. Like, what was I even trying to tell Tiger Woods? Honestly. I remember one time he wasn’t chipping well and he asked me to take a look. If I had the chance again, I’d probably say, ‘Dude, you’re Tiger Woods. It’s chipping. Look within yourself. I’m sure you have the answer.’”

 

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Talked about this with some people at the Teacher of the Year conference.

Foley got a very "broken" golfer when he coached Tiger. Not entirely Foley's fault, by any stretch.

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9 hours ago, iacas said:

Foley got a very "broken" golfer when he coached Tiger. Not entirely Foley's fault, by any stretch.

I had a lot of windshield time these past few days so I listened to Hal Sutton. He made the point that above a certain skill level, it’s all mental. And in his opinion, you need a mentor who’s been there and dealt with the highs, the lows, the loneliness, etc. 

Perhaps Sean is saying he treated the wrong disease?

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On 11/30/2020 at 4:29 PM, iacas said:

I recorded it, I think. I saw it was on, and then there was a later showing at midnight or something. I should have it, I think.

Have you watched this yet, Erik? Curious to hear what you think.

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5 hours ago, Vespidae said:

He made the point that above a certain skill level, it’s all mental.

Hal is full of shit.

And nobody has been where Tiger was, or even if it’s in a different arena, that other person isn’t Tiger, with his childhood or personality or experiences or body or anything else.

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Have you watched this yet, Erik? Curious to hear what you think.

No. Way down on my list.

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28 minutes ago, iacas said:

Hal is full of shit.

And nobody has been where Tiger was, or even if it’s in a different arena, that other person isn’t Tiger, with his childhood or personality or experiences or body or anything else.

Really? Based on what? Pretty strong statement on Hal. 

10 of Tiger's 15 majors were won with Earl in Tiger's head. Granted, Hal's comments weren't related to Tiger per se, but I know several PGA players who couldn't handle the pressure. They admit it. Vomiting. Alcohol. Weed. Anything to control the anxiety.

Earl did an amazing job of keeping Tiger focused without going down those rabbit holes.

As to others, look at Todd Marinovich (football) or Jennifer Capriati (tennis). Tiger is amazing, no doubt, but he's not the only child prodigy out there. I personally know Olympic athletes who started at 4 years of age ... and speak of the stress, the havoc their body took, the mind games ...

 

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7 minutes ago, Vespidae said:

Really? Based on what?

Based on a ton. Lots of topics about this here. Tiger was physically better than everyone else. He had shots nobody else could hit. It wasn’t just a mental thing that separated him.

Foley taught a broken (injured) golfer.

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