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  1. 1. Which Happens First?

    • Rory wins the Masters to complete the career grand slam
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    • Tiger Woods wins his 15th major championship
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My high what?

I see what you did there and I like it.

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I wanted to expand on what I meant by the numbers being on Tiger's side, so I'm going to do an analysis based on major finishes. I'm going to use the 2009 season as the starting point. It's conven

nevets88
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Sadly, I'm sure I chose McIlroy. Me of little faith. So happy to be wrong.

onthehunt526
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Don't forget Tom Watson could just never win a PGA, Ray Floyd couldn't figure out the Open Championship, Trevino never won a Masters. I'm going to go out on a limb here... I think Tiger might get

MSchott Great Member

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THIS.

And anyone discounting Rory at Augusta I just don't get. His game is perfect for that course.


His results so far don't support this. As I said earlier, Augusta National suits a lot of golfer's styles. They are all long these days and the fairways are wide. Players with solid approach shots, great short games and putting will contend. Rory in his major wins played great golf but he does not always play that well. And there are a lot of great young players out there including Bubba who has only one less major than McIlroy. He will most certainly win another green jacket.

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MSchott Great Member

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Without Tiger golf wouldn't be what it is today, its the domination that drew everyone in. Every time I go to a PGA event it seems as though the whole gallery follows Tiger. Name one guy who is as captivating????

Ask anyone the first word that comes to mind when you say the word "Golf".. I guarantee the overwhelming majority would say

"Tiger Woods"

Tiger = Icon


If Rory started winning majors like Tiger and passed him, he would be the icon. Frankly it's stupid to say otherwise.

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Without Tiger golf wouldn't be what it is today, its the domination that drew everyone in. Every time I go to a PGA event it seems as though the whole gallery follows Tiger. Name one guy who is as captivating????

Ask anyone the first word that comes to mind when you say the word "Golf".. I guarantee the overwhelming majority would say

"Tiger Woods"

Tiger = Icon

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His results so far don't support this. As I said earlier, Augusta National suits a lot of golfer's styles. They are all long these days and the fairways are wide. Players with solid approach shots, great short games and putting will contend. Rory in his major wins played great golf but he does not always play that well. And there are a lot of great young players out there including Bubba who has only one less major than McIlroy. He will most certainly win another green jacket.

To be clear, the idea that putting matters so, so, so much more than ball striking at Augusta National is wrong. Witness… Bubba Watson. The course is a ballstriker's golf course. Putting might take you from third to first, but it's all about the second shot (and if you can have a shorter second shot because of your long tee shot, great).

Rory's got the ballstriking skills to contend at Augusta. Obviously we've seen that.

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To be clear, the idea that putting matters so, so, so much more than ball striking at Augusta National is wrong. Witness… Bubba Watson. The course is a ballstriker's golf course. Putting might take you from third to first, but it's all about the second shot (and if you can have a shorter second shot because of your long tee shot, great).

Rory's got the ballstriking skills to contend at Augusta. Obviously we've seen that.


No argument from me Erik. Correct placement of the approach is what Augusta is all about. Rory should have as good a chance as anyone to win their and I'm pretty sure he will but for some reason he has not been as competitive as he should be on that course so far.

As far as him winning their before Tiger wins another major, I still go with Tiger. Augusta allows many to be in contention.

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No argument from me Erik. Correct placement of the approach is what Augusta is all about. Rory should have as good a chance as anyone to win their and I'm pretty sure he will but for some reason he has not been as competitive as he should be on that course so far.

As far as him winning their before Tiger wins another major, I still go with Tiger. Augusta allows many to be in contention.

Win their what?

:whistle::-P

FTR, anyone who thinks Rory winning 20 majors still wouldn't be in Tiger's league...was dropped on their head as a child. :-P

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Gunther Great Member

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The reason Rory has such a good chance there is because he's long and plays a draw. This is why it also sets up for Phil and Bubba, although they play cuts. Tiger has struggled of late (well, struggled is a relative term), because he's no longer as effective a drawer of the ball with the driver so he goes to the 3 wood to draw it, losing valuable distance. I believe he's working on the draw these days and would think he'd have it dialed in by next April but we'll see. Rory doesn't seem to start seasons very quickly which may explain his lack of success there but with the 4th leg of the grand slam available and a major under his belt with Nike, I suspect he'll also be ready. Could be a great Masters in '15.

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There is at least one perfectly explainable reason for Rory's 2013 woes. The change from Titleist (I think he was with Titleist, right?) to Nike. It does not seem unreasonable that anyone might struggle for a bit playing new clubs.

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Win their what?

FTR, anyone who thinks Rory winning 20 majors still wouldn't be in Tiger's league...was dropped on their head as a child.

If Rory (or anybody really) wins 20 majors the GOAT debate kind of ceases to be a debate.

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If Rory (or anybody really) wins 20 majors the GOAT debate kind of ceases to be a debate.

Meh, agree to disagree. There will still be plenty in Jack's camp. Just like some people will think Tiger is the GOAT even if he only gets to 16 or so...

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It's highly possible haha. but it's the same as Kobe and Lebron, they could win 10 rings but can never be compared to Jordan[quote name="Slice of Life" url="/t/75936/what-happens-first-rory-completes-slam-or-tiger-wins-15th-major/90#post_1025361"] Win their what? :whistle:  :-P FTR, anyone who thinks Rory winning 20 majors still wouldn't be in Tiger's league...was dropped on their head as a child. :-P [/quote]

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There is at least one perfectly explainable reason for Rory's 2013 woes. The change from Titleist (I think he was with Titleist, right?) to Nike. It does not seem unreasonable that anyone might struggle for a bit playing new clubs.

And yet people switch clubs and play with new golf balls and so on all the time.

Yes, there have been some high-profile instances of a player sucking when switching, but there are hundreds or thousands of cases where the opposite is true (or the player plays even better).

Meh, agree to disagree. There will still be plenty in Jack's camp. Just like some people will think Tiger is the GOAT even if he only gets to 16 or so...

Plenty already think he's the greatest due to strength of field and his other stats (PGA Tour wins, Vardon trophies, etc.).

I have them pretty close to dead even at this point.

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It's highly possible haha. but it's the same as Kobe and Lebron, they could win 10 rings but can never be compared to Jordan

Yep...but Tiger is no Jordan. ;)

Plenty already think he's the greatest due to strength of field and his other stats (PGA Tour wins, Vardon trophies, etc.).

I have them pretty close to dead even at this point.

Yep, exactly my point.

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Gunther Great Member

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And yet people switch clubs and play with new golf balls and so on all the time. Yes, there have been some high-profile instances of a player sucking when switching, but there are hundreds or thousands of cases where the opposite is true (or the player plays even better).

Nick Watney is another who has struggled. Phil would be an example on the other side. I think Rory is a better golfer now, with the new equipment but I don't think you can argue that an adjustment period is generally required. Especially because he went all-in with everything in one fell swoop.

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Meh, agree to disagree. There will still be plenty in Jack's camp. Just like some people will think Tiger is the GOAT even if he only gets to 16 or so...


The debate will not cease but Rory will be the GOAT. That said, it's not going to happen.

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Yep...but Tiger is no Jordan. ;)

Yep, exactly my point.

And Jordan's no Russell! ;-) See, it is a never ending circle!

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And Jordan's no Russell!   See, it is a never ending circle!

No...because nobody every brings up Russell when they're talking about the GOAT. It's pretty widely accepted that he isn't the GOAT...

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