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I have a significant gap between my 3 wood (15*) and 4 hybrid (24*). Would buying an adjustable club and having its flexibility (18*-21*) be a smart move?

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I have a significant gap between my 3 wood (15*) and 4 hybrid (24*). Would buying an adjustable club and having its flexibility (18*-21*) be a smart move?

I have an adjustable driver, 3 wood and hybrid.  I was professionally fit for the driver and haven't adjusted it since I got it.  But for the other two, it was handy to be able to tinker with them a little bit to try and find the perfect combination to fill the gaps between my driver and 4 iron.

However, once I found the settings I liked, I've left them alone.

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I think adjustable clubs do more harm than good for 99.5% of golfers.   My 2 cents....

I keep mine set to neutral at all times.

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I think adjustable clubs do more harm than good for 99.5% of golfers.   My 2 cents....

I keep mine set to neutral at all times.

If you're talking about the guys who hit two bad shots and then pull out the wrench, then I'd totally agree with you. :)

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I don't think a wrench will fix anybody's misses.

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- Callaway Razr Fit 5-wood
- Callaway Big Bertha 4-5 Rescue Clubs
-- Mizuno Mx-25 six iron-gap wedge
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- Mizuno Mp-T11 60degree SW
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I respectfully disagree. If I can tune my driver more loft and also to have a shut face and an upright lie this allows me to correct where the ball hits the face. I do agree that once dialed in leave it be. Bad shots will happen. But by no means does a standard loft lie and face angle help my particular swing path

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I don't think a wrench will fix anybody's misses.

Agreed, But...I have a Titleist 913 3 wood that is adjustable. When I was having trouble hitting it solid, I had the loft up to 17*, and now that I can hit it most times fairly good, I might readjust down to 15 degrees, so I think that helps some. I did however give up my Callaway Razor fit, for a 10.5 degree G10 Ping non adjustable driver, which I really like. FWIW, I'm not a long ball hitter though, drives are about 240-250 carry.

So, is a newer adjustable driver, or woods worth it..? I think that would be up to the person buying them. Best to go get fitted, where you try out different clubs.

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I purchased my current woods without thinking about the adjustability. But I do find its worthwhile. I agree with people here that it's best to find what suits you best, get fitted and stick with it, But for some people , they will benefit. My driver is a 9.5 standard with adjustments to 8 degrees to 11. I lofted up to see what the difference was and it has helped my driving. I haven't lost distance. I believe that more loft on a club helps you hit it better, more often. Then all flight is higher, but I still get roll. So I'm happy. My 4-wood is adjustable between 16 and 18. I tried it at 16 but feel better at 17. Note that I probably overthought this one because I was trying to minimize gaps between the three clubs I tee off with (I have a 3h as well) and I doubt that made any difference. I haven tendency to close the face and the 4-wood also has a weight that biases fade, draw or neutral. Haven't tried the fade bias yet, but I might

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I think the retailers benefited most from adjustable clubs because it reduced the amount of stock they needed to carry.  Some heads are so adjustable, retailers only have to worry about dexterity and shaft stiffness for their orders.   Golfers benefit a bit from adjustability but once my clubs are set I rarely mess with the adjustments, especially after reading LSW and some of Mike and Erik's posts regarding wind and loft.

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I think the retailers benefited most from adjustable clubs because it reduced the amount of stock they needed to carry.  Some heads are so adjustable, retailers only have to worry about dexterity and shaft stiffness for their orders. ...

Both golf mfg reps and club pros mentioned this in conversations I had at the 2012 St. Louis Golf Expo.

Tailgate has the same idea as a small-college golfer I met. In the spring when the turf is sparse, he sets his FWs to 17* and 21*. When the turf comes in and he has more cushion under the ball, he resets to 15* and 19* to pick up extra distance.

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in my opinion adjustable clubs do no good, i think it would be a lot better if you got a fitted club that suits both purposes [quote name="Tailgater" url="/t/77275/are-adjustable-clubs-worth-it#post_1057091"]I have a significant gap between my 3 wood (15*) and 4 hybrid (24*). Would buying an adjustable club and having its flexibility (18*-21*) be a smart move?[/quote]

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I love the idea of adjustable clubs. I've found in the past I initially hit a driver pretty well for a while but then would start hit it worse and worse. So I would try a different driver. With an adjustable driver you can tweak it until you get it back. I have lots of non adjustable woods in my garage.

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in my opinion adjustable clubs do no good, i think it would be a lot better if you got a fitted club that suits both purpose

Th purpose of an adjustable club is that it can be fitted for you, and if your game changes - you can be fitted again without buying another club.

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Agreed, But...I have a Titleist 913 3 wood that is adjustable. When I was having trouble hitting it solid, I had the loft up to 17*, and now that I can hit it most times fairly good, I might readjust down to 15 degrees, so I think that helps some. I did however give up my Callaway Razor fit, for a 10.5 degree G10 Ping non adjustable driver, which I really like. FWIW, I'm not a long ball hitter though, drives are about 240-250 carry. So, is a newer adjustable driver, or woods worth it..? I think that would be up to the person buying them. Best to go get fitted, where you try out different clubs.

I love love love my G10 fairway woods and want to pick up a 9* driver to try. Back to topic, I was fitted for my 910 and started out with a 8.5 loft. My swing changed over the winter last year and I had to bump the loft to 9.25*. For me that was helpful. I think a adjustable 3 wood would be helpful for me since I keep two in the trunk.

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Tailgate, are you saying that you're wondering if you should buy a club to fill the gap in general, or are you asking if it would be worth it to pay extra for one that's adjustable?

I personally wouldn't pay extra for something adjustable, but I have never had (or really felt a need for) an adjustable club. I got fitted for my clubs and stuck with them, minus some shaft replacements for various reasons. The adjustability could be very useful though in differing conditions. Depending on the conditions I'll switch out my 4 iron for a hybrid (been leaning towards the iron recently) or even bring along the 3-iron instead of my 21* hybrid if it's exceptionally windy or the course is short and tight (for tee shots). That's how I "adjust" those clubs, but being able to change the loft of a hybrid or wood could probably help you achieve a similar effect to what I do to adjust for conditions.

I say if the price is right, go for it!

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Agreed, But...I have a Titleist 913 3 wood that is adjustable. When I was having trouble hitting it solid, I had the loft up to 17*, and now that I can hit it most times fairly good, I might readjust down to 15 degrees, so I think that helps some. I did however give up my Callaway Razor fit, for a 10.5 degree G10 Ping non adjustable driver, which I really like. FWIW, I'm not a long ball hitter though, drives are about 240-250 carry.

So, is a newer adjustable driver, or woods worth it..? I think that would be up to the person buying them. Best to go get fitted, where you try out different clubs.

Made a boo boo, that should be a Titleist 910, not a 913.... :doh:

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