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One of our members requested we cover a specific chip shot in our virtual lessons that we just started. It's a shot I personally hate: a short chip shot with zero green to work with from the deep stuff.

Here is a short video with our head pro, Jason Gobleck...in short, play it like a sand shot:

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http://youtu.be/8EjxLzKSzz0


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Spam. Just pushing your YouTube videos.-Just stop-It wont end well for you. I propose a more organic approach.-Participate. Let people get to know you. Discuss some things without shoving your videos down our throats and let people see you as a smart guy or group or wahtever. Then-When the time is right-Share a timely video that is intended to help someone. This is just promotional spam.-No timeliness other than 'we need to send people to our YouTube channel.' Think before you act.-This site calls the forum a 'community' and it is a bit of one. Im the grumpy guy who has seen it all and who is tolerated because he knows whats what.-Plus I make a mean cup of joe.
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This wasn't meant at all to be SPAM...I'm brand new here, and it appeared to me that I posted this in the correct place. I clicked on a few other topics specifically to watch a video lol. I'm not trying to hide what I posted...it's a 1:30 video of advice to hit a short chip from the deep rough. I apologize if I offended anybody, or it got interpreted as "SPAM". I thought this area was the place to post tips/video instruction?


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It is the place. The better place is to do it in a timely fashion when it actually helps someone.-This just comes across as 'We Need to Promote our UTube Channel'. This site does not like people promoting themselves without giving back.-Its a selfish attitude.-I agree too. [quote name="WHGC1913" url="/t/77610/short-chip-from-the-deep-rough#post_1065090"]This wasn't meant at all to be SPAM...I'm brand new here, and it appeared to me that I posted this in the correct place. I clicked on a few other topics specifically to watch a video lol. I'm not trying to hide what I posted...it's a 1:30 video of advice to hit a short chip from the deep rough. I apologize if I offended anybody, or it got interpreted as "SPAM". I thought this area was the place to post tips/video instruction? [/quote]

"The expert golfer has maximum time to make minimal compensations. The poorer player has minimal time to make maximum compensations." - And no, I'm not Mac. Please do not PM me about it. I just think he is a crazy MFer and we could all use a little more crazy sometimes.

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dchoye Great Member

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That video is nothing special. Why not make the lie tougher and have ball sit way down in deep grass? I like to see how it's done when it's tougher to utilize the bounce

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This wasn't meant at all to be SPAM...I'm brand new here, and it appeared to me that I posted this in the correct place. I clicked on a few other topics specifically to watch a video lol. I'm not trying to hide what I posted...it's a 1:30 video of advice to hit a short chip from the deep rough. I apologize if I offended anybody, or it got interpreted as "SPAM". I thought this area was the place to post tips/video instruction?

It is, if you're a pro or instructor you should contact @iacas and register with the site as one.  We welcome everyone and want them to contribute throughout the site, not just post videos that would promote their business.

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I don't particularly love this position: when the shaft gets this steep the golfer has to cut under the ball "artificially."

I'm also not sure why a standard chip shot wouldn't have worked well there. The ball only has to fly a few feet.

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I don't particularly love this position: when the shaft gets this steep the golfer has to cut under the ball "artificially." [URL=http://thesandtrap.com/content/type/61/id/107415/] [/URL] I'm also not sure why a standard chip shot wouldn't have worked well there. The ball only has to fly a few feet.

I think the question deserves an answer.... @WHGC1913 the ball looks like it is perfectly placed and a regular chip would get the ball off the grass and on its way.. I have seen Erik ie @iacas show us videos of pitching out of the deep stuff, and this is no deep stuff.. I agree with using the bounce, but I don't agree that this was a proper demenestration. [quote name="dchoye" url="/t/77610/short-chip-from-the-deep-rough/0_10#post_1065136"]That video is nothing special. Why not make the lie tougher and have ball sit way down in deep grass? I like to see how it's done when it's tougher to utilize the bounce[/quote] Agreed, exactly!

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One of our members requested we cover a specific chip shot in our virtual lessons that we just started. It's a shot I personally hate: a short chip shot with zero green to work with from the deep stuff.

Here is a short video with our head pro, Jason Gobleck...in short, play it like a sand shot:

Link:

http://youtu.be/8EjxLzKSzz0

Just out of curiosity, it looks like a classic bump and run chip shot. The rough is probably only 2-3 inches deep (as the top of the ball is clearly visible), and there's a lot more green than rough to work with. Why not just use a PW/9i and just bump it half a yard onto the green?

Or are you trying to simulate deeper rough?

EDIT: Didn't read @iacas comments. So, I agree that this video does not make it look like a tough shot. I even have a VLOG showing me chipping and subsequently putting for par out of deeper stuff on a two way lie.

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Just out of curiosity, it looks like a classic bump and run chip shot. The rough is probably only 2-3 inches deep (as the top of the ball is clearly visible), and there's a lot more green than rough to work with. Why not just use a PW/9i and just bump it half a yard onto the green?

Yeah I wouldn't say you have to have a tough shot to demonstrate a technique you would use on a tough shot, but it would surely be more realistic and convincing.

That's an easy enough shot that any number of techniques could work just fine.


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He described the lie as downhill and did not discuss setup changes for a downhill lie from the rough that I usually hear such as "shoulders parallel to the hill" and another one I cannot remember ... lean a little forward?

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Fescues are for sissies. Come south and I will show you burmuda rough that can stop your car. I would bump that out with my pw.

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Fescues are for sissies. Come south and I will show you burmuda rough that can stop your car. I would bump that out with my pw.


Amen.

The grass is so thick at our course that if the ball was sitting down, and it was against the grain, that technique would never get the club to the ball.

Disclaimer: I will admit that not many courses I play have grass as thick as ours...but still...


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Fescues are for sissies. Come south and I will show you burmuda rough that can stop your car. I would bump that out with my pw.

Amen.

The grass is so thick at our course that if the ball was sitting down, and it was against the grain, that technique would never get the club to the ball.

Disclaimer: I will admit that not many courses I play have grass as thick as ours...but still...

That was one of my first shocks when golfing in FL.

TPC Tampa let that stuff grow boot height. A full swing 8i got my ball out about 20 yards from that stuff.

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Fescues are for sissies. Come south and I will show you burmuda rough that can stop your car. I would bump that out with my pw.

I know funny and that's funny. I've had to lay up from 50yds out of Florida rough before!

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I know funny and that's funny. I've had to lay up from 50yds out of Florida rough before!

You've got quite a swing to do that!

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Nah just an unwillingness to make a double on a short par 4 ;-) Easier to make 4 from the fairway then the bunker

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