Jump to content
Note: This thread is 3581 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

OK, after much research seems that conventional wisdom is that on "most" wedge shots around the green, more bounce is better.  I plan to replace my current 56 - 11 wedge with a 54 - ?  Reason being is that I don't hit my 56 as long as I used to (could hit 100 yds at one point) and I really like to hit the sandwedge from 95 to 100 yards.  My question is this - does bounce really matter that much for a full shot since the club should make contact with the ball first then the ground?


I don't think it matters much on full swings.  I have a 54*/14 wedge that I have no problem hitting full swing.  I don't think you can have to much bounce.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

This is not an answer to your question. Just another perspective.

I carry 4 wedges. PW, AW, SW, and a LW  I could not tell you what the bounce is on any of them. I can look at them, and  know which one has more bounce, but that's about it. I know my SW has the most bounce.

In my case, over the years, (trial and error if you will) I have learned to look at the situation, and pick the appropriate wedge for the shot at hand. I might sometimes pick the bounce that is not accepted by the masses as correct, but it is the bounce I am most comfortable with for that particular shot/lie situation.

I am now fooling around with a 58* (?) zero bounce wedge that is, for lack of a better description, very interesting for me.

In My Bag:
A whole bunch of Tour Edge golf stuff...... :beer:

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

You guys are probably right - I'm probably overthinking it.  I've been playing golf for over 20 years and have never paid any attention to bounce or grind on wedges.  I only looked at loft.  Problem is now there are too many choices which MAKES you think about these things when you go to buy.  Bottom line - I don't think, for example,  having 13 degrees bounce versus 9 degrees would make that much difference anyway for a guy that plays 2 days a week with his buddies.


You guys are probably right - I'm probably overthinking it.  I've been playing golf for over 20 years and have never paid any attention to bounce or grind on wedges.  I only looked at loft.  Problem is now there are too many choices which MAKES you think about these things when you go to buy.  Bottom line - I don't think, for example,  having 13 degrees bounce versus 9 degrees would make that much difference anyway for a guy that plays 2 days a week with his buddies.


I think the bounce would make more of a difference in the bunker or around the green then it would during a full swing.

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator

My question is this - does bounce really matter that much for a full shot since the club should make contact with the ball first then the ground?

Even though full swing mechanics are different, bounce is still beneficial on full swings. It gets the clubhead out of the ground and prevents taking big divots.

Mike McLoughlin

Check out my friends on Evolvr!
Follow The Sand Trap on Twitter!  and on Facebook
Golf Terminology -  Analyzr  -  My FacebookTwitter and Instagram 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

If you hit the ball first, then no the bounce does not matter. Bounce is their to help on mishits, primarily shots were the clubhead hits the ground slightly before the ball. More bounce gives you a bit more leeway on that. On full swing shots, I would say hitting the ball first or slightly thin is a much better outcome than slightly fat even with more bounce.

I've hit a lot of greens in regulation hitting just the ball and taking no divot at all.

In the end, I think bounce on full swing can't hurt you. It will help higher handicap players on certain shots.

Matt Dougherty, P.E.
 fasdfa dfdsaf 

What's in My Bag
Driver; :pxg: 0311 Gen 5,  3-Wood: 
:titleist: 917h3 ,  Hybrid:  :titleist: 915 2-Hybrid,  Irons: Sub 70 TAIII Fordged
Wedges: :edel: (52, 56, 60),  Putter: :edel:,  Ball: :snell: MTB,  Shoe: :true_linkswear:,  Rangfinder: :leupold:
Bag: :ping:

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Administrator
You guys are probably right - I'm probably overthinking it.  I've been playing golf for over 20 years and have never paid any attention to bounce or grind on wedges.  I only looked at loft.  Problem is now there are too many choices which MAKES you think about these things when you go to buy.  Bottom line - I don't think, for example,  having 13 degrees bounce versus 9 degrees would make that much difference anyway for a guy that plays 2 days a week with his buddies.

Check out these threads: and .

Bounce (or "Glide") does matter.

  • Upvote 1

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

For my swing, I prefer less bounce from the fairway. I bought a 56.14 and countiously hit fat shots. With a 56.12 and 60.8 , I make solid contact from tight lies.

  • Administrator

For my swing, I prefer less bounce from the fairway. I bought a 56.14 and countiously hit fat shots. With a 56.12 and 60.8 , I make solid contact from tight lies.

Two degrees of bounce was not the difference between "continuously fat shots" and "solid contact."

Erik J. Barzeski —  I knock a ball. It goes in a gopher hole. 🏌🏼‍♂️
Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
Golf Digest "Best Young Teachers in America" 2016-17 & "Best in State" 2017-20 • WNY Section PGA Teacher of the Year 2019 :edel: :true_linkswear:

Check Out: New Topics | TST Blog | Golf Terms | Instructional Content | Analyzr | LSW | Instructional Droplets

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

  • Moderator

For my swing, I prefer less bounce from the fairway. I bought a 56.14 and countiously hit fat shots. With a 56.12 and 60.8 , I make solid contact from tight lies.

The bounce just helps the sole "glide" through the turf.

Mike McLoughlin

Check out my friends on Evolvr!
Follow The Sand Trap on Twitter!  and on Facebook
Golf Terminology -  Analyzr  -  My FacebookTwitter and Instagram 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Both good points. With the higher bounce the front edge of the wedge sits off the ground higher. Personally, my eye doesn't like that. Looks like I would catch it thin, resulting in fat shots. Not the clubs fault, all on me. My 56.12 sits nice to my eye, so the thought of hitting it thin doesn't enter my mind. Quiet the mental game we play.

I prefer low bounce, 6* or 8*, I've never been a big divot taker anyway, however, in summer, when bunkers are soft and fluffy, (I'm from the uk, summer only lasts 8 days over here!) the low bounce on my sand and lob is useless for me in the bunker, the lack of bounce allows the club head to bury itself deep into the sand and it's not a pretty sight, so I bought a high bounce 58/14* and the difference was instant! High bounce is definitly your friend in certain situations, like soft bunkers, mud, or thick rough! So if it's really wet/muddy, or really hot sunny, I'll swop my 62/6* to 58/14* but I always keep my 56/8* because it's great on fairways and around the green

Gaz Lee


  • 2 months later...

I prefer low bounce, 6* or 8*, I've never been a big divot taker anyway, however, in summer, when bunkers are soft and fluffy, (I'm from the uk, summer only lasts 8 days over here!) the low bounce on my sand and lob is useless for me in the bunker, the lack of bounce allows the club head to bury itself deep into the sand and it's not a pretty sight, so I bought a high bounce 58/14* and the difference was instant! High bounce is definitly your friend in certain situations, like soft bunkers, mud, or thick rough! So if it's really wet/muddy, or really hot sunny, I'll swop my 62/6* to 58/14* but I always keep my 56/8* because it's great on fairways and around the green


I'll second that! Like one of the other posters, I only ever paid attention to loft, and never bounce. However, a couple of years ago we started playing regular rounds in Thailand (the rest of our golf is played in Germany, where we live, and the UK), and found that the grass there was very different to the conditions I was used to. The individual blades are much thicker and stronger, so the ball tends to sit up more. This was causing my wedges to slide right under the ball, barely making contact and often - on attempted lob shots - sending the ball almost vertically a couple of feet in the air, and not much else. On the other hand, we get a lot of rain at my home course, and the sand in the bunkers is often caked hard, resulting in frequent thinned shots. I was then fortunate enough to read an excellent article in a golf magazine, explaining bounce and its effects, and have since been experimenting with different bounces and lofts. Basically, I now have several wedges and pick them to match the ground on the course I am playing. If I am travelling and playing several courses, I will make sure I have a good mix in my bag - I can compensate for more or less loft by opening the clubface, but it is now more important to me to play each shot with the appropriate bounce. Probably like many casual golfers, I never missed bounce until I fully understood it, and now working consciously with it has really helped improve my short game.


  • Moderator

I'll second that! Like one of the other posters, I only ever paid attention to loft, and never bounce. However, a couple of years ago we started playing regular rounds in Thailand (the rest of our golf is played in Germany, where we live, and the UK), and found that the grass there was very different to the conditions I was used to. The individual blades are much thicker and stronger, so the ball tends to sit up more. This was causing my wedges to slide right under the ball, barely making contact and often - on attempted lob shots - sending the ball almost vertically a couple of feet in the air, and not much else. On the other hand, we get a lot of rain at my home course, and the sand in the bunkers is often caked hard, resulting in frequent thinned shots. I was then fortunate enough to read an excellent article in a golf magazine, explaining bounce and its effects, and have since been experimenting with different bounces and lofts. Basically, I now have several wedges and pick them to match the ground on the course I am playing. If I am travelling and playing several courses, I will make sure I have a good mix in my bag - I can compensate for more or less loft by opening the clubface, but it is now more important to me to play each shot with the appropriate bounce. Probably like many casual golfers, I never missed bounce until I fully understood it, and now working consciously with it has really helped improve my short game.

Good thread for you to check out. Bounce just helps the club "glide" through the turf.

Mike McLoughlin

Check out my friends on Evolvr!
Follow The Sand Trap on Twitter!  and on Facebook
Golf Terminology -  Analyzr  -  My FacebookTwitter and Instagram 

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 3581 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    PlayBetter
    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FitForGolf
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-20%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack/FitForGolf, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope. 15% off TourStriker (no code).
  • Posts

    • Day 331 - Main focus was on ground contact, so mostly work with the Divot Board. 
    • Day 149: tooled around with putters at PGA Tour Superstore for a while. None of the putters I tried were better than mine, which is not surprising. 
    • Day 8: More mirror work on the same stuff; neutral grip / centered turn.
    • Day 224 (13 Dec 24) - Friday men’s group session / teamed up with course greens keeper and his assistant.  Was a very “meh” round as I underplayed the putter more than anything.  Driving was okay, irons were good. Wedges were strong - even had a couple green side pitches rattle the flag and lip out for near miss birdies.  Fun part was we were busy repairing pitch marks - like three to each one we made.  Best lesson was really seeing the course from the perspective of the ones’ who take care of it.  
    • I might describe "engaging the legs at setup" a little differently. I'd say to bend at the ankle a bit more to get the knees more towards the balls of the feet. It actually looks better in your old set-up and wouldn't be the cause of a sway. A sway is when...well it's when you do in the backswing what you are currently doing with your knees/legs in the downswing. When your knees move laterally away from the ball it will cause you to move your center of rotation...your spine... back behind the ball and make it almost impossible to get back to the ball in the downswing. As for your knee action in the downswing, that's causing you to get no benefit of the ground forces and wasting a lot of potential for speed through impact. How should the knees work? Think about jumping straight up with your feet close together. Your ankles bend forward, your knees bend and you push straight up through your pelvis and body. Now stand with your legs apart like in the golf set-up and think about if you wanted to jump to the left. You would still bend both legs the same way but you would push up through your right leg harder than your left and again, you would push up the leg into the pelvis. Now do the same jump to the right. More push up the left leg into the pelvis than with the right. That's what your left leg needs to do through the downswing to use the ground forces. Your left leg will push your left pelvis back and behind you as you come into impact instead of straightening after impact. I hope that makes sense.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...