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Was watching this just now and IIRC, he said that the short game is most important because what good is it hitting it far if you can't chip and putt, without naming TM or FS, he think's that technology hasn't helped the game, and that going and hitting at the range is better than using devices and hitting into a net or indoors.

Not sure if the video is on TGC but he's definitely a fan of old school philosophy.

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None of this really surprises me. I learned a long time ago not to take too much stock in what professional golfers say about golf.

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Well, I agree with Big John on the importance of the short game, his short game is better than one would think. I think he's also in a different place now... Not even close to the longest on tour.. So he relies on it. Interestingly he and Fred Couples practice a lot swinging wedges and hitting shots with their left arm only (when I have watched them several times at Muirfield Village) Both have deft touch around the greens.. with one arm.. But as for technology has not helped the game? Well this also comes from a dude that's probably drinking some Pabst canonballs while headed to the strip club...

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I don't know much about him but it's interesting to hear him advocate low and slow philosophy when he admits he's a lot more flexible than the average person which allows his swing to be much longer and that there are times when he decelerates when using his wedges sometimes.

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I don't know much about him but it's interesting to hear him advocate low and slow philosophy when he admits he's a lot more flexible than the average person which allows his swing to be much longer and that there are times when he decelerates when using his wedges sometimes.

Well, in a nutshell... he was the stereotypical "grip and and rip it" guy for many years and hit it loooong...won two major championships...and struggled personally. I still think he's a good guy.


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Well, in a nutshell... he was the stereotypical "grip and and rip it" guy for many years and hit it loooong...won two major championships...and struggled personally. I still think he's a good guy.

Grip it and rip it and hit it long and he's pretty much saying chipping and putting is more important than the full swing?

He seems to be contradicting himself.

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I don't know much about him but it's interesting to hear him advocate low and slow philosophy when he admits he's a lot more flexible than the average person which allows his swing to be much longer and that there are times when he decelerates when using his wedges sometimes.

Well, in a nutshell... he was the stereotypical "grip and and rip it" guy for many years and hit it loooong...won two major championships...and struggled personally. I still think he's a good guy.


I've read both of his biographies, and he is certainly smarter than he portrays himself to his fans.

He also mentioned that his flexibility is from using adult clubs since he was a little kid. He was pretty much your stereotypical prodigy golfer, getting to scratch at a young age. Not sure what happened to him on the Tour?

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I've read both of his biographies, and he is certainly smarter than he portrays himself to his fans.

He also mentioned that his flexibility is from using adult clubs since he was a little kid. He was pretty much your stereotypical prodigy golfer, getting to scratch at a young age. Not sure what happened to him on the Tour?

What do you mean what happened to him on the Tour?  Has he not been a successful Tour golfer?

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I've read both of his biographies, and he is certainly smarter than he portrays himself to his fans.

He also mentioned that his flexibility is from using adult clubs since he was a little kid. He was pretty much your stereotypical prodigy golfer, getting to scratch at a young age. Not sure what happened to him on the Tour?

What do you mean what happened to him on the Tour?  Has he not been a successful Tour golfer?

He could have been so much more. From what I have read, he was so much longer than all the other golfers and he had the ability to hit a 1 iron prodigious distances. He was long and accurate, and his short game was pretty decent.

His drinking and temper got in the way of his success on the Tour. He did not really display these traits until he started playing on the tour, so I was wondering if the pressure of the tour or the fame of his prodigious distance made him the way he was?

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He could have been so much more. From what I have read, he was so much longer than all the other golfers and he had the ability to hit a 1 iron prodigious distances. He was long and accurate, and his short game was pretty decent. His drinking and temper got in the way of his success on the Tour. He did not really display these traits until he started playing on the tour, so I was wondering if the pressure of the tour or the fame of his prodigious distance made him the way he was?

Spot on, he had unique talent.


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He could have been so much more. From what I have read, he was so much longer than all the other golfers and he had the ability to hit a 1 iron prodigious distances. He was long and accurate, and his short game was pretty decent. His drinking and temper got in the way of his success on the Tour. He did not really display these traits until he started playing on the tour, so I was wondering if the pressure of the tour or the fame of his prodigious distance made him the way he was?

Yeah he had/has some demons. In the pre no privacy inet age he lived in CO and made the news a few times due to alcohol related trouble.

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Not sure what happened to him on the Tour?

Extracurricular activities. His off-course habits and lifestyle was a major distraction and hurt his game (Anthony Kim is similar case). Or maybe he just spent too much time working on his chipping and putting ;-) [quote name="RFKFREAK" url="/t/79564/john-daly-driver-show-on-golf-channel-academy#post_1098992"] What do you mean what happened to him on the Tour?  Has he not been a successful Tour golfer? [/quote]Two major wins, but only five PGA Tour wins in total. Not really the kind of career you'd expect given his talent, but he's done well enough for himself. He played on the PGA Tour for 13 years or so. That's a pretty successful tour career.

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Extracurricular activities. His off-course habits and lifestyle was a major distraction and hurt his game (Anthony Kim is similar case).

Or maybe he just spent too much time working on his chipping and putting

Two major wins, but only five PGA Tour wins in total. Not really the kind of career you'd expect given his talent, but he's done well enough for himself.

He played on the PGA Tour for 13 years or so. That's a pretty successful tour career.

So, he pretty much didn't meet the expectations people had for him and decided he was going to make sure and enjoy life and let what happens to his golf game happen as a result.

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So, he pretty much didn't meet the expectations people had for him and decided he was going to make sure and enjoy life and let what happens to his golf game happen as a result.

Yes and no. He definitely did what he wanted but with mixed results. I am sure the DV arrests weren't enjoyable nor was the fallout. I think he was forced into rehab at least once as a disciplinary action after one arrest. When he lived in Castle Pines he made the news quite a bit.

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What do you mean what happened to him on the Tour?  Has he not been a successful Tour golfer?

Compared to what many think he should've been? No. An anecdote (I think JD mentions it in his book) - "Apparently at one tournament, Daly was sitting enjoying a beer with friends when Tiger passed the table on his way to the gym. Daly shouted across to Tiger asking him whether he never got tired of exercising and invited him to join them for a drink. Tiger quickly quipped back, ‘If I had your talent, I wouldn’t need to exercise’."

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