2016 Ryder Cup Discussion Thread

[Chilli Dipper]

3 minutes ago, natureboy said:

Even better than Moore / DJ:

Why not high on Kuch for Ryder. Lack of distance?

I think I'd like those top two pairings flipped around. Holmes would pair better with a longer hitter.

[skydog]

Interesting...I like those for the most part but I don't like Phil and Kuchar playing this afternoon. I don't quite understand how DL3 could bench Snedeker in favor of those guys.

Lack of distance and grititness/killer instinct/whatever you want to call it for Kuchar IMO. He's a great guy to log top 10s week in and week out on tour, don't think he's got a great RC game.

 

[boogielicious]

I would not be playing Phil this afternoon. He has been erratic. 

[natureboy]

7 minutes ago, Chilli Dipper said:

I think I'd like those top two pairings flipped around. Holmes would pair better with a longer hitter.

Why so? They're playing their own ball?

5 minutes ago, skydog said:

Interesting...I like those for the most part but I don't like Phil and Kuchar playing this afternoon. I don't quite understand how DL3 could bench Snedeker in favor of those guys.

Lack of distance and grititness/killer instinct/whatever you want to call it for Kuchar IMO. He's a great guy to log top 10s week in and week out on tour, don't think he's got a great RC game.

How has Snedeker's ballstriking been so far? On paper at least Kuchar is better there, though seems a bit cold so far. Great / hot putting is not what you need in fourball. It seems to me you want to maximize makeable birdie looks without risking par too much - and that comes from good ballstriking.

Everyone would be better with a longer hitter (who was still reasonably accurate). Kind of why I was bigger on Woodland or Berger vs. Moore, because their ballstriking was stronger and I saw that as a weakness looking at the original qualifying 8 as a group.

Edited October 1, 2016 by natureboy

[skydog]

3 minutes ago, natureboy said:

How has Snedeker's ballstriking been so far? On paper at least Kuchar is better there, though seems a bit cold so far. Great / hot putting is not what you need in fourball. It seems to me you want to maximize makeable birdie looks without risking par too much - and that comes from good ballstriking.

 

Yea I'm guessing DL3 is thinking Phil can hopefully rack up some birdies (and plenty of bogeys) and Kuchar can typically be counted on for par. I think he's giving Phil (and to a lesser extent, Kuchar) too much credit, but we'll see. I just love Snedeker's clutch-ness and heart in this event so I have a hard time with sitting him two matches now.

[Hazsa]

Incredible. If they hold this together it could be a huge half point.

[JetFan1983]

Come on, Spieth... Learn to hit a tee shot, bro!

[Missouri Swede]

7 minutes ago, boogielicious said:

I would not be playing Phil this afternoon. He has been erratic. 

He's always erratic. Unless it's a major.

 I hypothesize that there are two of him. One plays the majors. The other goes to everything else. The Ryder Cup falls under everything else. 

[natureboy]

2 minutes ago, skydog said:

Yea I'm guessing DL3 is thinking Phil can hopefully rack up some birdies (and plenty of bogeys) and Kuchar can typically be counted on for par. I think he's giving Phil (and to a lesser extent, Kuchar) too much credit, but we'll see. I just love Snedeker's clutch-ness and heart in this event so I have a hard time with sitting him two matches now.

Season-long, Kuch actually has the 6th highest birdie rate on the team. Hopefully Sneds will contribute a needed point tomorrow by being fully rested.

[Chilli Dipper]

8 minutes ago, natureboy said:

Why so? They're playing their own ball?

Holmes is long, but he plays himself out of holes; DJ and Koepka are more consistent. Having Holmes pair with one of those two, and Moore with the other, would balance those pairings.

[Natural Patrick]

So in this format, after the hole is over. Anyone of the 2 on the team can tee off ?

[natureboy]

3 minutes ago, Chilli Dipper said:

Holmes is long, but he plays himself out of holes; DJ and Koepka are more consistent. Having Holmes pair with one of those two, and Moore with the other, would balance those pairings.

Koepka and Holmes (season-long) bogey about the same frequency. Given that Koepka is a better putter, it would seem that he's guiltier of playing himself out of holes where JB just struggles a bit more to make putts.

Edited October 1, 2016 by natureboy

[Silent]

Spectacular comeback from the Spaniards.

[natureboy]

15 minutes ago, Silent said:

Spectacular comeback from the Spaniards.

Indeed, Ugh  Momentum is with Euros now, but hopefully putting out their strongest teams so much leaves them a little tired this afternoon and tomorrow.

I wonder if cooler / breezier weather favors the Euros a bit? But tip of the cap to their good play in those two sessions to pull it even.

Edited October 1, 2016 by natureboy

[JetFan1983]

Haha, as much as I love the Ryder Cup, it's somewhat annoying that this tournament makes me root for the likes of Patrick Reed there. That was odd just now fist pumping to a putt he made. I feel dirty. 

[Hazsa]

10 minutes ago, Natural Patrick said:

So in this format, after the hole is over. Anyone of the 2 on the team can tee off ?

No, they take it in turns on the tee, regardless of who finished the previous hole.

[JetFan1983]

Wow... Dustin-Koepka, Rory-Pieters. This is awesome. They better have the pro-tracer ready to go.

Thank you, Ryder Cup Captains!!

[Natural Patrick]

9 minutes ago, Hazsa said:

No, they take it in turns on the tee, regardless of who finished the previous hole.

Ok Thanks. I thought it was alternate shot from beginning to end