Which president candidate fits you?

[jamo]

Yeah that's annoying. AMERICA DOESN'T USE THE METRIC SYSTEM AND WE'RE DAMN PROUD OF IT.

Selfishly, it would completely **** my job for months.

[RJH999]

Selfishly, it would completely **** my job for months.

It would make my pre-cal class even more goddamn complicated.

[dfreuter415]

I agree. The survey is not the best. It has me for Santorum, but we here in Pennsylvania found out about his hypocrisy when he was Senator. I would not vote for this man.

Me, too. Very weak.

I didnt really know much about him, but I looked him up; I like a lot of what he says.

The thing I remember about him as governor is that he wanted to change the Christmas Tree to a Holiday Tree.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/rhode-island-gov-lincoln-chafee-holiday-tree-remark-angers-thousands-roman-catholic-church-article-1.987823

Here is a good synopsis of my positions as well.

I have always been a middle of the road guy. I have voted in every election since I was 21, the age of eligibility when I was young, and have voted for 5 Republicans, 5 Democrats, and 1 independent. Right now my choices are Dr. Ben Carson or Marco Rubio.

[Mr. Desmond]

I agree. The survey is not the best. It has me for Santorum, but we here in Pennsylvania found out about his hypocrisy when he was Senator. I would not vote for this man.

Me, too. Very weak.

The thing I remember about him as governor is that he wanted to change the Christmas Tree to a Holiday Tree.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/rhode-island-gov-lincoln-chafee-holiday-tree-remark-angers-thousands-roman-catholic-church-article-1.987823

Here is a good synopsis of my positions as well.

I have always been a middle of the road guy. I have voted in every election since I was 21, the age of eligibility when I was young, and have voted for 5 Republicans, 5 Democrats, and 1 independent. Right now my choices are Dr. Ben Carson or Marco Rubio.

Since Carson is basically an extreme right wing racist Oreo... if you are middle of the road, I suggest you look elsewhere.

[boogielicious]

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Originally Posted by jamo

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Originally Posted by RJH999

Yeah that's annoying. AMERICA DOESN'T USE THE METRIC SYSTEM AND WE'RE DAMN PROUD OF IT.

Selfishly, it would completely **** my job for months.

It has caused problems before.

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02/

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(CNN) -- NASA lost a $125 million Mars orbiter because a Lockheed Martin engineering team used English units of measurement while the agency's team used the more conventional metric system for a key spacecraft operation, according to a review finding released Thursday.

The units mismatch prevented navigation information from transferring between the Mars Climate Orbiter spacecraft team in at Lockheed Martin in Denver and the flight team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

Lockheed Martin helped build, develop and operate the spacecraft for NASA. Its engineers provided navigation commands for Climate Orbiter's thrusters in English units although NASA has been using the metric system predominantly since at least 1990.

No one is pointing fingers at Lockheed Martin, said Tom Gavin, the JPL administrator to whom all project managers report.

[jamo]

Since Carson is basically an extreme right wing racist Oreo... if you are middle of the road, I suggest you look elsewhere.:-$

You say that as if you think it's endearing.

[dfreuter415]

Respectfully disagree. "Extreme right wing racist Oreo?"  The language is a little harsh.  Extreme? Hardly. Racist Oreo? C'mon.

Dr. Carson is a conservative Christian with values that appeal to me, including fiscal responsibility. We have been driven too far to the left by the current resident in the White House, and need to right our ship. In addition, we need a Washington outsider to change the political climate, and I feel that Dr. Carson would fill the bill.

[boogielicious]

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Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

Since Carson is basically an extreme right wing racist Oreo... if you are middle of the road, I suggest you look elsewhere.

Respectfully disagree. "Extreme right wing racist Oreo?"  The language is a little harsh.  Extreme? Hardly. Racist Oreo? C'mon.

Dr. Carson is a conservative Christian with values that appeal to me, including fiscal responsibility. We have been driven too far to the left by the current resident in the White House, and need to right our ship. In addition, we need a Washington outsider to change the political climate, and I feel that Dr. Carson would fill the bill.

The current resident of the White House has been far more fiscally responsible IMO than the previous resident. My issue with the GOP is the realization that the GOP Presidents have not been fiscally responsible as they claim to be. Reagan, GHW and GW all ran up the deficit. Reagan increased taxes and started the Ponzi scheme known as "Supply Side Economic". I want fiscal responsibility and neither party does that no matter what they say they do.

Below are the first google hits, but there are many more.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/02/05/142288/reagan-centennial/

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/02/05/142288/reagan-centennial/

Whereas the last two Democratic Presidents slowed the increase or even reduced it..

http://archives.politicususa.com/2011/08/24/big-government-obama-reagan.html

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jan/20/barack-obama/barack-obama-claims-deficit-has-decreased-two-thir/

Clinton left the Presidency with a surplus.

The real debate between liberals and conservatives is what we want to spend the money on and how we distribute the tax load. Neither party works to improve the efficiency of government, which would reduce the tax load. There is too much cronyism and payback to lobbyists going on for both parties. The tax code is rife with breaks and benefits for the lobbyist that you and I don't ever see.

I think we can all agree on the last part.

I am an independent BTW. I am conservative when it comes to money and liberal when it comes to people.

[Mr. Desmond]

Respectfully disagree. "Extreme right wing racist Oreo?"  The language is a little harsh.  Extreme? Hardly. Racist Oreo? C'mon.

Dr. Carson is a conservative Christian with values that appeal to me, including fiscal responsibility. We have been driven too far to the left by the current resident in the White House, and need to right our ship. In addition, we need a Washington outsider to change the political climate, and I feel that Dr. Carson would fill the bill.

Harsh? Yes. From what I've listened to, Carson is extreme.

I've known too many so-called Christians who act very un-Christian-like. I don't want this version of extreme Christianity in my politicians. I like the values of Christ. I do not think a lot of Christians represent Christ's values. Carson seems like one of these.

There is a reason for separation of Church and State -- let's respect it.

Bring real Christian values, if those are your values, but leave your religion outside the door of the State.

[saevel25]

The current resident of the White House has been far more fiscally responsible IMO than the previous resident. My issue with the GOP is the realization that the GOP Presidents have not been fiscally responsible as they claim to be. Reagan, GHW and GW all ran up the deficit. Reagan increased taxes and started the Ponzi scheme known as "Supply Side Economic". I want fiscal responsibility and neither party does that no matter what they say they do.

Still not fiscally responsible enough. At least Bush spent money upfront and you knew what he spent. Obama created a welfare program that will probably increase our national spending by a significant amount in the neat future.

Really spending is not the issue. Its the overbearing, out of date regulations we have. Some business have to hire full time lawyers just to sift through the 170,000 pages of regulations the US has.

Also its the out of date tax code known as the income tax. Why would anyone want to tax income?

I had to pay $4560 in federal income taxes last year. You know what I could do with that money? Put it towards retirement, help take the burden off social security. Lets say I take my check fed tax payments and turn them into monthly payments. In 15 years I would have upwards of $100,000 dollars.

That tax payment per year could equal a substantial amount of a person's college yearly tuition. That tax payment could help pay off or support any medical issues a person might have. If you want to tax anything, then tax the final goods and services. Create a national sales tax and be done with it. Taxing labor is just a stupid economically stifling idea.

[boogielicious]

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Originally Posted by boogielicious

The current resident of the White House has been far more fiscally responsible IMO than the previous resident. My issue with the GOP is the realization that the GOP Presidents have not been fiscally responsible as they claim to be. Reagan, GHW and GW all ran up the deficit. Reagan increased taxes and started the Ponzi scheme known as "Supply Side Economic". I want fiscal responsibility and neither party does that no matter what they say they do.

Still not fiscally responsible enough. At least Bush spent money upfront and you knew what he spent. Obama created a welfare program that will probably increase our national spending by a significant amount in the neat future.

Really spending is not the issue. Its the overbearing, out of date regulations we have. Some business have to hire full time lawyers just to sift through the 170,000 pages of regulations the US has.

Also its the out of date tax code known as the income tax. Why would anyone want to tax income?

I had to pay $4560 in federal income taxes last year. You know what I could do with that money? Put it towards retirement, help take the burden off social security. Lets say I take my check fed tax payments and turn them into monthly payments. In 15 years I would have upwards of $100,000 dollars.

That tax payment per year could equal a substantial amount of a person's college yearly tuition. That tax payment could help pay off or support any medical issues a person might have. If you want to tax anything, then tax the final goods and services. Create a national sales tax and be done with it. Taxing labor is just a stupid economically stifling idea.

Sure you could do this. But then how do we pay for things like roads, bridges, the army, the navy, etc. It is a dream that we could eliminate federal income tax. The private section will never, ever pay for anything unless they are forced to.

But if you eliminate all the loopholes and lobbyist created tax breaks, we all would pay less because many are not paying their fair share. Add reducing government waste and inefficiency, and we'd get more money back. None of the pols want to do that because that is what butters their bread.

[ryan772]

Sure you could do this. But then how do we pay for things like roads, bridges, the army, the navy, etc. It is a dream that we could eliminate federal income tax. The private section will never, ever pay for anything unless they are forced to. But if you eliminate all the loopholes and lobbyist created tax breaks, we all would pay less because many are not paying their fair share. Add reducing government waste and inefficiency, and we'd get more money back. None of the pols want to do that because that is what butters their bread.

well only about 3% of the department. of transportations budget actually gets spent on Building and fixing roads ands bridges. The rest is spent on overhead. Im sure the same applies to the army and navy.

[boogielicious]

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Originally Posted by boogielicious

Sure you could do this. But then how do we pay for things like roads, bridges, the army, the navy, etc. It is a dream that we could eliminate federal income tax. The private section will never, ever pay for anything unless they are forced to.

But if you eliminate all the loopholes and lobbyist created tax breaks, we all would pay less because many are not paying their fair share. Add reducing government waste and inefficiency, and we'd get more money back. None of the pols want to do that because that is what butters their bread.

well only about 3% of the department. of transportations budget actually gets spent on Building and fixing roads ands bridges. The rest is spent on overhead. Im sure the same applies to the army and navy.

Exactly why I was talking about improving the efficiency of government. Neither party addresses that.

[StefanUrkel]

Did a pasty white man call Ben Carson an uncle tom? Funny stuff. The white guilt is strong.

[Chilli Dipper]

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[pumaAttack]

1.  Bernie Sanders

2.  Joe Biden

3.  Hillary Clinton

So far off the list because he is a complete idiot:

Tied between Scott Walker and Rick Santorum.

[inthehole]

Jeb's apparently my boy ... he's actually one of my least favorite GOP candidates