2015 PGA Championship at Whistling Straits Discussion Thread

[Donny Smithern]

The odds in golf seem awful to bet on...

In football you are playing against a spread and two teams.  You either hit that or you dont.  50/50

In golf, you have 1 golfer out of 150 or so entrants.  1/156 chance.

Also, if you pick a slate of 5 or 6, you are essentially making a +250(or so) money line bet similar to  baseball or hockey

[pumaAttack]

Also, if you pick a slate of 5 or 6, you are essentially making a +250(or so) money line bet similar to  baseball or hockey

Betting $250 to win $100?

[Donny Smithern]

100 to win 250.

Not a perfect description (depending on who/if you win numbers change drastically) but just pointing out the more picks you make (to a point) the closer it gets to a 50/50 type bet you describe.

[nevets88]

Speith off the tee vid.

[pumaAttack]

100 to win 250.

Not a perfect description (depending on who/if you win numbers change drastically) but just pointing out the more picks you make (to a point) the closer it gets to a 50/50 type bet you describe.

Correct me if I am wrong here.

Say the odds for the top 5 golfers are:

Spieth 11/2

Rory 9/1

DJ 11/1

Day 15/1

Scott 18/1

I place a $20 bet on each golfer, totally $100 wagered.

If Spieth wins, I win $110.  But then when you subtract the $80 wagered on the other 4 golfers, I really only win $30.  Not much of a payout.

If Rory wins, I win $180.  Minus the $80 lost on the others, I walk away winning $100.

So basically that covers your losses.

[ChrisP]

Correct me if I am wrong here. Say the odds for the top 5 golfers are: Spieth 11/2 Rory 9/1 DJ 11/1 Day 15/1 Scott 18/1 I place a $20 bet on each golfer, totally $100 wagered. If Spieth wins, I win $110.  But then when you subtract the $80 wagered on the other 4 golfers, I really only win $30.  Not much of a payout.  If Rory wins, I win $180.  Minus the $80 lost on the others, I walk away winning $100. So basically that covers your losses.

Yup, that's why Spieth isn't worth the pick unless you are really sure he is going to win. His value isn't there. Rory at 9/1 isn't bad. You probably will never see his value this good ever again.

[Gunther]

Changing the subject from gambling. A little sorry Tiger didn't make the Champion's Dinner last night? I think so. Don't want to thrash him but I think it was disrespectful to Rory who hosted. Curious to hear other thoughts.

[Donny Smithern]

Correct me if I am wrong here.

Say the odds for the top 5 golfers are:

Spieth 11/2

Rory 9/1

DJ 11/1

Day 15/1

Scott 18/1

I place a $20 bet on each golfer, totally $100 wagered.

If Spieth wins, I win $110.  But then when you subtract the $80 wagered on the other 4 golfers, I really only win $30.  Not much of a payout.

If Rory wins, I win $180.  Minus the $80 lost on the others, I walk away winning $100.

So basically that covers your losses.

So in this example just eyeballing the math -based on an average NET payout you are betting 100 to win 154 (234 avg win less the other 80 in losers), while the odds are suggesting you have about a 48% of one of your guys winning.  I have no idea what the expected value is here but point being, you pick a slate of guys sit back and have fun watching and as ChrisP says, hoping  you are in the hunt on Sunday afternoon.

[pumaAttack]

Changing the subject from gambling. A little sorry Tiger didn't make the Champion's Dinner last night? I think so. Don't want to thrash him but I think it was disrespectful to Rory who hosted. Curious to hear other thoughts.

it wasn't in their Nike contract to attend that event together?

[nevets88]

Headless cap tossed to bodiless arm.

[MyrtleBeachGolf]

Betting $250 to win $100?

That would be -250

[Spiethismyhero]

Anyone else think Patrick Reed if flying under the radar this week?  I know the big stat is FW%, but still I just can't write him off and he is at 55-1.

To cheap to pass up in my book.

LOL. He's already faded away. But heck he probably still thinks he's one of the 5 best golfers in the world :)

[ChrisP]

So I watched a lot of the news conferences. I watched a lot from The British Open, The U.S. Open and the Masters as well. Maybe it's just me that's noticed it, but every single golfer that gets interviewed, there's a Japanese reporter there and they ask the same question over and over and over to every different golfer: "What are you impressions of Hideki Matsuyama?"

[Donny Smithern]

LOL. He's already faded away. But heck he probably still thinks he's one of the 5 best golfers in the world :)

He's in 9th place for the FedEx Cup.

He may not be the best equipped for Whistling Straits......but he is WAY under valued at 55-1.

[jbishop15]

LOL. He's already faded away. But heck he probably still thinks he's one of the 5 best golfers in the world :)

Idk if I'd call someone whose won four times in two years and once already this year "faded away".

[RJH999]

So I watched a lot of the news conferences. I watched a lot from The British Open, The U.S. Open and the Masters as well. Maybe it's just me that's noticed it, but every single golfer that gets interviewed, there's a Japanese reporter there and they ask the same question over and over and over to every different golfer: "What are you impressions of Hideki Matsuyama?"

Yeah they used to do that with Ishikawa. But his ship has long sailed.

[iacas]

Odds are made by people placing bets...

Common misconception.

[DCrotty22]

PGA tee times and TV schedule:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/golf-devil-ball-golf/pga-championship-tee-times--which-include-rory-mcilroy-221257831.html

7:15 a.m. (10)/12:30 p.m. (1): Victor Dubuisson , Matt Kuchar , Charl Schwartzel
7:25 a.m. (10)/12:40 p.m. (1): Sergio Garcia , Bill Haas , Louis Oosthuizen
7:35 a.m. (10)/12:50 p.m. (1): Justin Rose , Brandt Snedeker , Geoff Ogilvy
7:45 a.m. (10)/1 p.m. (1): Bubba Watson , Paul Casey , Jim Furyk
7:55 a.m. (10)/1:10 p.m. (1): Hunter Mahan , Lee Westwood , Ernie Els
8:05 a.m. (10)/1:20 p.m. (1): Jason Day, Dustin Johnson, Rickie Fowler
8:15 a.m. (10)/1:30 p.m. (1): Tiger Woods, Martin Kaymer, Keegan Bradley
8:25 a.m. (10)/1:40 p.m. (1): Gary Woodland, Francesco Molinari, Marc Warren


12:20 p.m. (1)/7:05 a.m. (10): Davis Love III, Darren Clarke, Steve Stricker
12:30 p.m. (1)/7:15 a.m. (10): Jimmy Walker, Tommy Fleetwood, Justin Thomas
12:40 p.m. (1)/7:25 a.m. (10): Webb Simpson, Bernd Wiesberger, Shane Lowry
12:50 p.m. (1)/7:35 a.m. (10): Nick Watney, Ian Poulter, Joost Luiten
1 p.m. (1)/7:45 a.m. (10): Luke Donald, Graeme McDowell, Patrick Reed
1:10 p.m. (1)/7:55 a.m. (10): Adam Scott, Henrik Stenson, Brooks Koepka
1:20 p.m. (1)/8:05 a.m. (10): Rory McIlroy, Jordan Spieth, Zach Johnson
1:30 p.m. (1)/8:15 a.m. (10): Jason Dufner, Phil Mickelson, Padraig Harrington

Television schedule

Thursday, August 13 (First Round) - 2-8 p.m. (TNT)

Friday, August 14 (Second Round) - 2-8 p.m. (TNT)

Saturday, August 15 (Third Round) - 11 a.m. - 2 p.m. (TNT) and 2-7 p.m. (CBS)

Sunday, August 16 (Fourth Round) - 11 a.m. - 2 p.m. (TNT) and 2-7 p.m. (CBS)