Swaying on the backswing - please, help

[mvmac]

  gtaj said:

Haha you're just showing the ones that don't

I'm showing a bunch of top players and major champions. You said many of the top pros sway on the backswing, very few, if any of the top players actually slide their hips back.

  gtaj said:

Check out padrig against the Rolex sign

http://youtu.be/0KxQfdhGtsU

Disagree Padraig slides back. His right hip didn't slide past the line.

[gtaj]

Well we disagree I'm cool with that. Thanks!

[Duff McGee]

You can't "agree to disagree" when one side is giving objective evidence and you are not. You have not yet posted an example of a pro swaying back. Padrig doesn't sway back in that video.

[boogielicious]

  gtaj said:

Haha you're just showing the ones that don't

Check out padrig against the Rolex sign

Most don't. A few do. But they are the best in the world. We are not. So it is better for us not to sway.

[Righty to Lefty]

  gtaj said:

Well we disagree I'm cool with that. Thanks!

Welcome to the site.....ah yes I remember when I was 7 posts in and I thought I knew so much.....just open your mind and wait a while. Soon you will see the light !! Paddy isn't swaying at all....his weight is staying very much braced on his inside of his right leg.

[John S]

  gtaj said:

Haha you're just showing the ones that don't

Check out padrig against the Rolex sign

I don't see his head swaying back at all.

[Mac62]

  mvmac said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtaj

Haha you're just showing the ones that don't

I'm showing a bunch of top players and major champions. You said many of the top pros sway on the backswing, very few, if any of the top players actually slide their hips back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtaj

Check out padrig against the Rolex sign

http://youtu.be/0KxQfdhGtsU

Disagree Padraig slides back. His right hip didn't slide past the line.

Not only that, but if you watch his head and upper body, there is absolutely no backward sway whatsoever in his backswing.  Watch the position of his head in relation to the bright palm frond behind it.  Perhaps gtaj is mistaking the decrease in flexion of his right leg/knee as "sway".

[p1d1r]

I agree that using a mirror is the best solution for this. Got this guidance from a pro a couple years ago and it really transformed my swing. Specifically, he said to put a piece of tape on the mirror aligned to your nose (so vertical). Take your golf club and lay it across your upper arms, and then fold your arms so that your hands are resting on the opposite shoulders. This holds the club in place. Now assume your stance facing the mirror. Practice rotating back and through concentrating on keeping your nose aligned to that tape (both back and through, though eventually on the through you will come up and out). You'll see right away when your head moves back. Note your head can and should turn a little, but your head should not move back. It also should be noted that unless you're a very low handicapper that you should attempt to keep your head vertically level as well throughout. Only the best athletes can do the dip move with consistency, so he suggested I go for maintaining consistent head heigh as well. It will feel very strange at first, but repeat that 20 times for a few days in a row and then take it to the range. Good luck.

[boogielicious]

  p1d1r said:

I agree that using a mirror is the best solution for this. Got this guidance from a pro a couple years ago and it really transformed my swing. Specifically, he said to put a piece of tape on the mirror aligned to your nose (so vertical). Take your golf club and lay it across your upper arms, and then fold your arms so that your hands are resting on the opposite shoulders. This holds the club in place. Now assume your stance facing the mirror. Practice rotating back and through concentrating on keeping your nose aligned to that tape (both back and through, though eventually on the through you will come up and out). You'll see right away when your head moves back. Note your head can and should turn a little, but your head should not move back. It also should be noted that unless you're a very low handicapper that you should attempt to keep your head vertically level as well throughout. Only the best athletes can do the dip move with consistency, so he suggested I go for maintaining consistent head heigh as well. It will feel very strange at first, but repeat that 20 times for a few days in a row and then take it to the range. Good luck.

Welcome to the site @p1d1r

Mirror work is a great way to improve. Thanks for posting.

[arturo28mx]

I have a large mirror in my living room and every day I do some slow practice swings to make sure I'm not swaying and I'm swinging on plane. The mirror has been key in my progress.

[gtaj]

@6minutes in?

Lol one anyway

[mvmac]

  gtaj said:

@6minutes in?

[gtaj]

Thanks for the analysis and the effort to post it. I like the approach described here http://www.adamyounggolf.com/the-model-swing-is-dead/

[mvmac]

  gtaj said:

Thanks for the analysis and the effort to post it.

I like the approach described here

http://www.adamyounggolf.com/the-model-swing-is-dead/

I agree golfers shouldn't try to copy a "model" swing but there are certainly some things you can learn by understanding the commonalities of great players.

[Phil McGleno]

  gtaj said:

Thanks for the analysis and the effort to post it. I like the approach described here http://www.adamyounggolf.com/the-model-swing-is-dead/

Blog points out a bunch of problems and what ifs but doesn't offer any solutions. He also does not understand the Kwon functional swing plane. @mvmac is right.-You do not see good golfers slide their hips back.

[isukgolf]

  gtaj said:

Thanks for the analysis and the effort to post it. I like the approach described here http://www.adamyounggolf.com/the-model-swing-is-dead/

So, I followed the link and read the info ... appears to be nothing more than a large add for the "The Practice Manual" by Adam Young ...

[gtaj]

Yeah well he is selling a book - which I bought and got a lot out of - but his ideas are pretty well laid out in that and other articles on his site. I find a lot of it very freeing after many attempts at improvement through video analysis to hit certain "positions" and comparison with a pro. I've been down roads that may be similar to the OP in that i thought that if I could only eliminate "x" I'd be a much better golfer when In fact my efforts are much better spent in other actually achievable areas - controlling tye bottom of my swing being chief among them. Also external vs internal focus and mental prep. Don't sell Adam and others like him short I think what he has to say has a lot of merit

[isukgolf]

@gtaj I certainly do not want to sell Adam short, as I have not read his book to comment. The link provided just did not really provide any info of value to me. However, until I learned to keep my head relatively still, and not sway my hips backward I struggled to break 100 and sliced so far right it was left ... and I can assure you my swing will never look like a pro's. But I believe they may be on to a few things that I need to an mimic as close as I can.