Why all the testosterone?

[daa1969]

People, unless your close to a scratch golfer, why do you insist on playing from the back tees? If you wanna improve your score and have more fun, just move up! My average bad drive still goes like 275 and i play forward, i see it all the time, most of the time if your even lucky enough to reach the fairway, its pretty crooked anyway, would you rather hit driver, 3wood, than 40 yard pitch, or driver, 6 iron, at worse little chip? Maybe its just me but it seems really stupid to set yourself up for failure right from the start!

[Kenny Lee]

Your "bad drive" averages 275?

WOW. MAN!

[rob0225]

People, unless your close to a scratch golfer, why do you insist on playing from the back tees? If you wanna improve your score and have more fun, just move up! My average bad drive still goes like 275 and i play forward, i see it all the time, most of the time if your even lucky enough to reach the fairway, its pretty crooked anyway, would you rather hit driver, 3wood, than 40 yard pitch, or driver, 6 iron, at worse little chip? Maybe its just me but it seems really stupid to set yourself up for failure right from the start!

That's a lot of testosterone.

[daa1969]

Well, generally my bad shots are thin, so they end up rolling out pretty good

[nick1998bunker]

If you have 6 irons into greens playing up you obviously dont average 275

[daa1969]

That was just for the sake of my example, 90% of the time im hitting a wedge on par 4s, my average drive is around the 305 area. The example was for the people that dont even drive it 200

[Dave2512]

Weird thread. In our men's league the flights are setup via handicap. Championship flight and 1st flight play back everyone up one or two from there. IMO tee choice should be based on skill but you don't need to be near scratch to play back. A golfer that averages scores up to say 84ish isn't hitting too many shots that lead to trouble. Not all the guys in c-flight and 1st flight are long hitters and they still score decent. I played with a guy in league Wed. that could crush it but he only hit a few good shots through what probably was 50+ strokes, 9 hole league. On the first hole he hit it into the greenside water hazard from the tee. I'm talking like Rory on a good day long is how far he hit it. Perfect high draw. I play back because I am in championship flight, we have to, my drive was 267. I was about 50 yards behind where his ball would have flown into the hazard. I hit a wedge on and made par. He dropped missed the green despite being much closer, chipped on and 3 putted for triple. This went on hole after hole. He only made one par and it was dumb luck he pitched it to kick in range on a par 3. Wouldn't have mattered what tees he played because he sucked but he was in 3rd flight so he was up from me. We have a few money holes and for his flight long drive skin was on a 292 yard par 4 that plays longer because the elevation gain is around fifty feet. He hit it hole high about 50 yards right of the green. The next hole is 364 yards. He sliced one OB but hit his next one close enough to the green he could have putted it, he chose to chip it and duffed it. This guy was grey hair old too, never seen anything like it.

[Jeremie Boop]

People, unless your close to a scratch golfer, why do you insist on playing from the back tees? If you wanna improve your score and have more fun, just move up! My average bad drive still goes like 275 and i play forward, i see it all the time, most of the time if your even lucky enough to reach the fairway, its pretty crooked anyway, would you rather hit driver, 3wood, than 40 yard pitch, or driver, 6 iron, at worse little chip? Maybe its just me but it seems really stupid to set yourself up for failure right from the start!

I don't play the back tees, though I probably could on some courses. I'm directionally challenged, not distance challenged, so as long as the back tees only add length I'd typically be fine. However, if the back tees bring in more hazards and OB then it would definitely cause me problems.

[DrvFrShow]

Weird thread.

In our men's league the flights are setup via handicap. Championship flight and 1st flight play back everyone up one or two from there. IMO tee choice should be based on skill but you don't need to be near scratch to play back. A golfer that averages scores up to say 84ish isn't hitting too many shots that lead to trouble. Not all the guys in c-flight and 1st flight are long hitters and they still score decent.

I played with a guy in league Wed. that could crush it but he only hit a few good shots through what probably was 50+ strokes, 9 hole league. On the first hole he hit it into the greenside water hazard from the tee. I'm talking like Rory on a good day long is how far he hit it. Perfect high draw. I play back because I am in championship flight, we have to, my drive was 267. I was about 50 yards behind where his ball would have flown into the hazard. I hit a wedge on and made par. He dropped missed the green despite being much closer, chipped on and 3 putted for triple. This went on hole after hole. He only made one par and it was dumb luck he pitched it to kick in range on a par 3.

Wouldn't have mattered what tees he played because he sucked but he was in 3rd flight so he was up from me. We have a few money holes and for his flight long drive skin was on a 292 yard par 4 that plays longer because the elevation gain is around fifty feet. He hit it hole high about 50 yards right of the green. The next hole is 364 yards. He sliced one OB but hit his next one close enough to the green he could have putted it, he chose to chip it and duffed it. This guy was grey hair old too, never seen anything like it.

When you're in a situation like that guy, hitting the ball way long and getting into all sorts of trouble because of length, I think it's time to break out a shorter club like a 4 or 5 iron for tee shots. If he's playing the shorter tees, this might be a better option for him.

[Hatchman]

I don't play the back tees, though I probably could on some courses. I'm directionally challenged, not distance challenged, so as long as the back tees only add length I'd typically be fine. However, if the back tees bring in more hazards and OB then it would definitely cause me problems.

I like that, directionally challenged not distance challenged. I'm just the opposite when playing with long ballers like @daa1969. Think I'll use that phrase from time to time.

[Dave2512]

When you're in a situation like that guy, hitting the ball way long and getting into all sorts of trouble because of length, I think it's time to break out a shorter club like a 4 or 5 iron for tee shots. If he's playing the shorter tees, this might be a better option for him.

He actually mentioned he never hits driver on that hole, I don't either. But it's league and I hit a good shot so I assume he wanted to keep up. The guys that play the up tees are kind of weird when they see us back. There are only maybe 25 guys in championship flight and 1st flight so most are up on whites.

[daa1969]

Guess that was my point from the begining, if you move up you can play a more controllable club off the tee. Im not refering to any league where its predetermined where you play from, im talking regular players who simply choose to play back so they can say "i played from the tips" and can bareley break 100, they could easily be looking at breaking 90 with better course management, which starts before you ever stick the tee in the ground.

[DrvFrShow]

Well it's funny because I hit 71% fairways on my last round and still sucked. Drives were long. It was the shots between the drives and the green.

[Hatchman]

Well it's funny because I hit 71% fairways on my last round and still sucked. Drives were long. It was the shots between the drives and the green.

Move back...hit driver/wood twice.

[daa1969]

fairway isnt the only answer, of course most of us need more help with aproach and overall scoring, thats a given for the average player, did your 71% faiways put you in the best position? A lot of times for me when i use my driver on a short par 4 i end up with a shot im not comfortable with, which is why i'll take my 3-4 iron off the tee, then have a shot in with a short iron that i can be aggressive with, rather than a think about too much shot. Ive tried it several times on a course i play often, the results are indisputable, the times i play safe off the tee my score is significantly better. Plus, if you need extra work with your irons theres no better place than on the course, the range means nothing, you need that pressure of actual play time.

[Divotmaker77]

Average tee shot is 275?  Sign me up.   I hit the ball pretty far and my average is maybe 245-250.  25 extra yards on average (if I stay in the fairway)  would be a gameschanger changer for me.  God bless those of you who can hit that far.  Just hope you are hitting off the fairway most of the time.

[RGoosen]

My drives average 260-265 and I hate playing off the back tees. 6300-6400 hundred yards is a good target yardage for me. I think length is a better determinate for your proper tee box/yardage. I'm a 6 handicap and prefer to tee off with my accurate 3 wood. If I had to play the back tees at 6600+ yardage where I was forced to hit driver I would quit playing golf.

[Sante TwoGloves]

Me and my buddies play from the tips all the time. We played the same way 20 years ago. Back tees, down and dirty, no gimmies, count every stroke. I'm going to play 9 with my lady today and try from the whites. See if I can score better. Maybe I'm better than I think. :-D