mythbuster's Trolling Thread (was Setup = Automatic)

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18 minutes ago, craps said:

Hey, mythbuster, why don't you try the latest David Leadbetter's A- swing golf method. It focus on a certain way of setting up and the swing is compact and easy to execute cos' it does not require full body turn. I personally like it. Is Lydia Ko using it?

Gurus like DL use top players to prove their swing theories.DL says the lower hand is weakened,over & on top, but Lydia doesn't do that even though she does use his keep the club head outside method of the A-swing.

 

[JKolya]

On 11/28/2015, 2:45:02, mythbuster said:

you make a lot of very  valid points that will be lapped up by so called "believers"  , but you miss the reality mark by a conservative mile. 

when you say that  if you set up properly to hit a baseball, tennis or bowl 'homerun" ,that is in fact a fallacy, as you yourself have no idea what that ideal setup actually is.

 

 

 

Um,there was no fallacy in his statement. First, it is an assumption by speaking of what he may or may not know, that is a fallacy of presumption on your part. While I am doing the same in assuming that you really do not know what he knows, I think I am safe in my assumption. Second, he makes a theoretical statement in "If I set up perfectly...," so his actual knowledge is irrelevant. By the statement he IS setting up perfectly in his theoretical framework, and is asking what will occur next. There is therfore no fallacy based on what he actually knows. 

I have never said or implied anything negative about someone in a post, but it's easy to try and sound smart by word usage, etc, but that doesn't make it true. I know, like everyone else, that  are trolling so no big deal, but still wanted to comment. 

[Pretzel]

On 11/29/2015, 6:56:19, boogielicious said:

I am disappointed that you did not work Blatherskite into any of those choices.

"Adventures of an Amateur Blatherskite"

"The Great Blatherskite"

"To Kill a Blatherskite"

"The Lord of the Blatherskites"

"The Grapes of the Blatherskite"

"Blatherskite-Five"

"Blatherskite at Noon"

"Blatherskite Farm"

"Blatherskite of the Flies"

"The Sound and the Blatherskite"

"All the Blatherskite's Men"

"Blatherskite, Blatherskite!"

"Heart of Blatherskite" (I personally like how this one turned out)

"At the Mountains of Blatherskite"

"The Blatherskite's Guide to the Golf Swing" (A bit more adapted than the others)

"Blatherskite's Game"

"A Farewell to Blatherskites"

"The Hunt for Red Blatherskite"

"One Flew Over the Blatherskite's Nest"

 

While these names aren't perhaps as unique as the previous suggestions, I would give brownie points to those able to name the original novels these names were based off of (the first one isn't based off a novel).

[boogielicious]

23 minutes ago, Pretzel said:

"Adventures of an Amateur Blatherskite"

"The Great Blatherskite"

"To Kill a Blatherskite"

"The Lord of the Blatherskites"

"The Grapes of the Blatherskite"

"Blatherskite-Five"

"Blatherskite at Noon"

"Blatherskite Farm"

"Blatherskite of the Flies"

"The Sound and the Blatherskite"

"All the Blatherskite's Men"

"Blatherskite, Blatherskite!"

"Heart of Blatherskite" (I personally like how this one turned out)

"At the Mountains of Blatherskite"

"The Blatherskite's Guide to the Golf Swing" (A bit more adapted than the others)

"Blatherskite's Game"

"A Farewell to Blatherskites"

"The Hunt for Red Blatherskite"

"One Flew Over the Blatherskite's Nest"

 

While these names aren't perhaps as unique as the previous suggestions, I would give brownie points to those able to name the original novels these names were based off of (the first one isn't based off a novel).

Well done!

[Lihu]

24 minutes ago, Pretzel said:

"Adventures of an Amateur Blatherskite"

"The Great Blatherskite"

"To Kill a Blatherskite"

"The Lord of the Blatherskites"

"The Grapes of the Blatherskite"

"Blatherskite-Five"

"Blatherskite at Noon"

"Blatherskite Farm"

"Blatherskite of the Flies"

"The Sound and the Blatherskite"

"All the Blatherskite's Men"

"Blatherskite, Blatherskite!"

"Heart of Blatherskite" (I personally like how this one turned out)

"At the Mountains of Blatherskite"

"The Blatherskite's Guide to the Golf Swing" (A bit more adapted than the others)

"Blatherskite's Game"

"A Farewell to Blatherskites"

"The Hunt for Red Blatherskite"

"One Flew Over the Blatherskite's Nest"

 

While these names aren't perhaps as unique as the previous suggestions, I would give brownie points to those able to name the original novels these names were based off of (the first one isn't based off a novel).

 

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn

The Great Gastby

The Lord of the Rings

Grapes of Wrath

Slaughterhouse Five

Darkness at Noon

Animal Farm

Lord of the Flies

The Sound and the Fury

All the King's Men

"Couldn't figure out". . .

Heart of Darkness

At the Mountains of Madness

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

War Game

A Farewell to Arms

To Kill a Mockingbird

One Flew over a Cuckoo's Nest

 

Read most of these and still can't communicate all that well.

[Pretzel]

@Lihu, well done! The first one wasn't based off anything, but I started doing novel spin-offs just because I couldn't come up with other ones for Blatherskite very easily. The one you didn't know is Absalom, Absalom!, and I figured it would probably be the hardest one. What you put as War Game was actually Ender's Game, though that was probably another hard one (the book is a personal favorite of mine though).

Come to think of it, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest would probably be a workable title on its own for @mythbuster's book!

[Lihu]

8 minutes ago, Pretzel said:

@Lihu, well done! The first one wasn't based off anything, but I started doing novel spin-offs just because I couldn't come up with other ones for Blatherskite very easily. The one you didn't know is Absalom, Absalom!, and I figured it would probably be the hardest one.

Come to think of it, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest would probably be a workable title on its own for @mythbuster's book!

I should read it to complete this list anyway. Plus, when I'm stuck in a few slow rounds, I can spend some time reading. . .

My English is not so good and I really struggled to read most of the titles you listed over the years. . .Lord of the Rings and Hitchhikers Guide got me through my first couple years of learning the language, and many of the others were required reading in Middle and High School. Struggled. . .

Yeah, I was thinking of something like "One Swung over a Cuckoo's Green"

[natureboy]

Blork. Post aborted. Must read first, then post.

Nice SAT word, @Pretzel

Edited November 30, 2015 by natureboy
redundant comment to Pretzel's reply to Lihu

[mythbuster]

On November 29, 2015 at 10:03:54 PM, JKolya said:

Um,there was no fallacy in his statement. First, it is an assumption by speaking of what he may or may not know, that is a fallacy of presumption on your part. While I am doing the same in assuming that you really do not know what he knows, I think I am safe in my assumption. Second, he makes a theoretical statement in "If I set up perfectly...," so his actual knowledge is irrelevant. By the statement he IS setting up perfectly in his theoretical framework, and is asking what will occur next. There is therfore no fallacy based on what he actually knows. 

I have never said or implied anything negative about someone in a post, but it's easy to try and sound smart by word usage, etc, but that doesn't make it true. I know, like everyone else, that  are trolling so no big deal, but still wanted to comment. 

ok, you seem like a decent person and clear thinker.

there are some  egotists here that really have no idea , apart from over  indulgence in claptrap.

what i am trying to convey and research, is a method of setup that isolates the left shoulder in total neutral phase that allows it to be pushed down around the upper horizontal spine, totally independently. that is how you get incredible torque on wind up in a grooved plane.

this applies to all of us, even the wombats who think they are still having trouble in single figures.

ok, i will not tell you what i have discovered whilst i was on a "forced "vacation, as i will no doubt be probably censored or "spat" at.

speak about freedom of speech in the USA.

[dkolo]

15 hours ago, Pretzel said:

"Adventures of an Amateur Blatherskite"

"The Great Blatherskite"

"To Kill a Blatherskite"

"The Lord of the Blatherskites"

"The Grapes of the Blatherskite"

"Blatherskite-Five"

"Blatherskite at Noon"

"Blatherskite Farm"

"Blatherskite of the Flies"

"The Sound and the Blatherskite"

"All the Blatherskite's Men"

"Blatherskite, Blatherskite!"

"Heart of Blatherskite" (I personally like how this one turned out)

"At the Mountains of Blatherskite"

"The Blatherskite's Guide to the Golf Swing" (A bit more adapted than the others)

"Blatherskite's Game"

"A Farewell to Blatherskites"

"The Hunt for Red Blatherskite"

"One Flew Over the Blatherskite's Nest"

 

While these names aren't perhaps as unique as the previous suggestions, I would give brownie points to those able to name the original novels these names were based off of (the first one isn't based off a novel).

"Much Ado About Poppycock"

[saevel25]

8 hours ago, mythbuster said:

is a method of setup that isolates the left shoulder in total neutral phase that allows it to be pushed down around the upper horizontal spine, totally independently.

So dislocating your left shoulder 
 

8 hours ago, mythbuster said:

ok, i will not tell you what i have discovered whilst i was on a "forced "vacation, as i will no doubt be probably censored or "spat" at.

Self-Inflicted is the term you are looking for.
 

8 hours ago, mythbuster said:

apart from over  indulgence in claptrap.

Good way to describe everything you have posted so far. 

[iacas]

8 hours ago, mythbuster said:

there are some  egotists here that really have no idea , apart from over  indulgence in claptrap.

Yes, calling people names… that's the way to get ahead.

8 hours ago, mythbuster said:

what i am trying to convey and research, is a method of setup that isolates the left shoulder in total neutral phase that allows it to be pushed down around the upper horizontal spine, totally independently. that is how you get incredible torque on wind up in a grooved plane.

You're really not.

Plus, in your last post, you said you'd given up on that and were focusing on the grip, did you not?

8 hours ago, mythbuster said:

this applies to all of us, even the wombats who think they are still having trouble in single figures.

"When in doubt, call people who have asked you legitimate questions 'wombats'"… said nobody, ever, when asked for advice on how to influence people in a discussion.

8 hours ago, mythbuster said:

ok, i will not tell you what i have discovered whilst i was on a "forced "vacation, as i will no doubt be probably censored or "spat" at.

Hardly.

If you, deep in the recesses of your mind, honestly believe that your ideas have been "spat" at or censored (we've deleted nothing of what you've posted), then you are not aligned with reality.

We've asked you questions. We've given you a platform from which to share your thoughts.

Instead, you:

• Insult.
• Call members names.
• Refuse to quote, respond, post pictures, share video, etc.
• Go on and on about how you've discovered a secret and how the golf establishment will hate you for it.

You're behaving like a troll, and being treated as such.

BTW, if you should happen to get to 50 points, you're permanently banned.

8 hours ago, mythbuster said:

speak about freedom of speech in the USA.

This is not an issue of freedom of speech, and you'd be well advised to stop playing the victim card. You're the one trolling.

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8 hours ago, mythbuster said:

ok, you seem like a decent person and clear thinker.

there are some  egotists here that really have no idea , apart from over  indulgence in claptrap.

what i am trying to convey and research, is a method of setup that isolates the left shoulder in total neutral phase that allows it to be pushed down around the upper horizontal spine, totally independently. that is how you get incredible torque on wind up in a grooved plane.

this applies to all of us, even the wombats who think they are still having trouble in single figures.

ok, i will not tell you what i have discovered whilst i was on a "forced "vacation, as i will no doubt be probably censored or "spat" at.

speak about freedom of speech in the USA.

You are being used for entertainment and nothing more.

[Pretzel]

For a wombat I'd say I play golf rather well! Who needs things like opposable thumbs or a bipedal stride to play golf?

[JKolya]

16 hours ago, mythbuster said:

 

what i am trying to convey and research, is a method of setup that isolates the left shoulder in total neutral phase that allows it to be pushed down around the upper horizontal spine, totally independently. that is how you get incredible torque on wind up in a grooved plane.

 

I understand. What I think, and what others have said (albeit perhaps in a defensive way for some.... while in a clear way for others) is that it does not matter. I understand what you are trying to do - the left shoulder has been an issue for me at times being too steep. But the answer is not in setup, but in the backswing. What you need is a feel - that is probably specific for you - that helps achieve what you want. The setup can adversely affect your swing - @iacas and myself mentioned in another thread how we often correct setups (and I am not an instructor). That said, no setup position will automatically lead to a good swing - it will just make things and sequencing easier. Go to the posture thread, read on here about setup, stop trying to perfect it, and work on YOUR FEELS. 

7 hours ago, iacas said:

Yes, calling people names… that's the way to get ahead.

You're really not.

Plus, in your last post, you said you'd given up on that and were focusing on the grip, did you not?

"When in doubt, call people who have asked you legitimate questions 'wombats'"… said nobody, ever, when asked for advice on how to influence people in a discussion.

Instead, you:

• Insult.
• Call members names.
• Refuse to quote, respond, post pictures, share video, etc.
• Go on and on about how you've discovered a secret and how the golf establishment will hate you for it.

 

Bold areas - why I, for the first time ever got into one of these debates, and responded in a semi-pedantic manner. I responded pointing out his fallacy, because he did not answer a specific question, but instead attacked someone's intelligence. 

7 hours ago, collapse said:

You are being used for entertainment and nothing more.

See above. I did not respond to attack him, or for my entertainment (or for others, or to jump on the bandwagon against him, etc). 

[Lihu]

18 hours ago, mythbuster said:

what i am trying to convey and research, is a method of setup that isolates the left shoulder in total neutral phase that allows it to be pushed down around the upper horizontal spine, totally independently. that is how you get incredible torque on wind up in a grooved plane.

this applies to all of us. . .

This is the dynamic portion of the swing that you seem to be gleaming over. Most people can pose (like for a picture) to look like a pro at setup or at finish. It's the getting from the setup to the finish in an efficient manner that gets the ball moving quickly that's hard.

[Vinsk]

@mythbuster, You have in fact provided some wonderful entertainment. For that I guess I appreciate you. I know you're not serious and are having fun with this, but I gotta say, I'm looking forward to your next post. It's lighthearted, meaningless entertainment. So come on...throw us another bone. 

[mythbuster]

On December 2, 2015 at 7:06:52 PM, Vinsk said:

@mythbuster, You have in fact provided some wonderful entertainment. For that I guess I appreciate you. I know you're not serious and are having fun with this, but I gotta say, I'm looking forward to your next post. It's lighthearted, meaningless entertainment. So come on...throw us another bone. 

in a way, i am glad you enjoyed my posts, but you must remember i only jest in MOD-eration ,with very strict parameters.

that said,  i like your style, tact and diplomacy.

as far as a tip goes- i myself am at the "crossroads'. a lot of the so called swing mechanics are just that-conscious mind aberrations.

this is a   totally wrong and flawed way to teach and is actually destructive.