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3 hours ago, Lihu said:

Seeing as I'm planning on swapping out my cheap old wedges out, I was thinking about getting two of these wedges. . .

FYI, they are non-conforming.

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35 minutes ago, mvmac said:

FYI, they are non-conforming.

Bummer. I knew there had to be a catch. . .:-(

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Fret not. There are more gimmicks.... This on is USGA conforming.....

http://pnpgolf.com/shop/rake-sand-wedge-steel/

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3 hours ago, Lihu said:

Bummer. I knew there had to be a catch. . .:-(

Seriously?

You have better options. This wedge is a band-aid. We have technique galore on this site... you can do it.

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21 minutes ago, Mr. Desmond said:

Seriously?

You have better options. This wedge is a band-aid. We have technique galore on this site... you can do it.

Yes, I've been working on using the techniques, but I still get that bad wedge shot at least one or two times a round in bunker/tight lie/or whatever.

Just a thought. . .

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1 hour ago, Lihu said:

Yes, I've been working on using the techniques, but I still get that bad wedge shot at least one or two times a round in bunker/tight lie/or whatever.

Just a thought. . .

We all do. And perhaps we all don't use 14 clubs, so you might have an extra slot.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Desmond said:

We all do. And perhaps we all don't use 14 clubs, so you might have an extra slot.

Don't you hate that?

The last time I was only 35 yards making my second shot with the longest drive I'd ever made on that hole, and ended with a double because I bladed the ball 100 yards into some wood chips and the ensuing other shots needed to get back on the green and 2 putt. . .:mad:

The issue is that the club is non-comforming according to Mike, so, looking for something to replace my 60/8 LW. The "54" appears okay except for the stress crack in the hosel from "successfully" attempting to converting an old 52 into the 54. . .

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31 minutes ago, Lihu said:

Don't you hate that?

The last time I was only 35 yards making my second shot with the longest drive I'd ever made on that hole, and ended with a double because I bladed the ball 100 yards into some wood chips and the ensuing other shots needed to get back on the green and 2 putt. . .:mad:

The issue is that the club is non-comforming according to Mike, so, looking for something to replace my 60/8 LW. The "54" appears okay except for the stress crack in the hosel from "successfully" attempting to converting an old 52 into the 54. . .

Not the club though ... those issues, from experience, are from poor rhythm and tension -- turn that into better tempo and relaxation.

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18 minutes ago, Mr. Desmond said:

Not the club though ... those issues, from experience, are from poor rhythm and tension -- turn that into better tempo and relaxation.

Of course, it's my bad whatever. . .but according to the ad "You couldn't hit fat or blade if you tried. . .". :-D

 

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4 hours ago, Lihu said:

Of course, it's my bad whatever. . .but according to the ad "You couldn't hit fat or blade if you tried. . .". :-D

 

With that sole, all they can truthfully say is that it won't dig...

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43 minutes ago, Mr. Desmond said:

With that sole, all they can truthfully say is that it won't dig...

I was thinking the same thing.

Come to think of it the guy I was talking to had weird wide sole irons as well. . .didn't look like conforming equipment was high on his list of priorities. . .

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8 hours ago, Lihu said:

didn't look like conforming equipment was high on his list of priorities

I think for the XE1, it's the grooves that make them non-conforming. 

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8 minutes ago, mvmac said:

I think for the XE1, it's the grooves that make them non-conforming. 

That kind of explains why they can get enough spin with a light swing. I'm now looking at the Ping offerings. . .

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19 minutes ago, Lihu said:

That kind of explains why they can get enough spin with a light swing. I'm now looking at the Ping offerings. . .

Gosh, if you put 65 degrees on a wedge, give it the KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 shaft (more active tip, more spin), then you might be able to do the same with regulation grooves. But you don't know until you know...

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30 minutes ago, mvmac said:

I think for the XE1, it's the grooves that make them non-conforming. 

I'm surprised they still had to mess around with illegal grooves at 65° of loft. Seems like overkill on paper. 

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Desmond said:

Gosh, if you put 65 degrees on a wedge, give it the KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 shaft (more active tip, more spin), then you might be able to do the same with regulation grooves. But you don't know until you know...

Interesting thought. . .thanks.

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28 minutes ago, dkolo said:

I'm surprised they still had to mess around with illegal grooves at 65° of loft. Seems like overkill on paper.

It's likely marketed towards high handicap golfers, women and older golfers who don't generate a lot of swing speed so the illegal grooves give them more spin by providing more space for sand and grass to fill so good contact can be made with the ball.

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On 12/13/2015 at 11:09 AM, Bobatl said:

The USGA is very responsive to email questions. They told me it was nonconforming due to "groove issues" They added, the responsibility for using conforming equipment is with the golfer.

Isn't 2024 the deadline for USGA groove issues for amateurs?


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