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Ugh, where do they bring these guys from..  I didn't understand what the hell Chamblee was trying to say, and I definitely didn't get what the second guy then tried to piggy back on but he clearly doesn't known which side is right side up.

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8 minutes ago, Abu3baid said:

Ugh, where do they bring these guys from..  I didn't understand what the hell Chamblee was trying to say, and I definitely didn't get what the second guy then tried to piggy back on but he clearly doesn't known which side is right side up.

lame.

Brandel Chamblee has been criticizing the TW swing changes for years now.He has been on the tour no matter what we think of him...the "second guy" is David Duval a former world  #1 ranked player.

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5 minutes ago, collapse said:

Brandel Chamblee has been criticizing the TW swing changes for years now.He has been on the tour no matter what we think of him...the "second guy" is David Duval a former world  #1 ranked player.

I like Brandel most of the time. He can put off a "jerk" vibe every so often but he is still a lot better than most of the other commentators. He does his research at the very least. He makes a lot of sense at times, just check out this vid.

 

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31 minutes ago, SavvySwede said:

I like Brandel most of the time. He can put off a "jerk" vibe every so often but he is still a lot better than most of the other commentators. He does his research at the very least. He makes a lot of sense at times, just check out this vid.

I disagree with that. There have been plenty of times he'll:

  • cherry-pick a relatively meaningless statistic.
  • cite something as his "evidence" while ignoring that other top players do the same thing.
  • rely on a faulty camera angle or one or two specific shots to make sweeping generalizations.

There's no answer to the question posed because… we don't have time machines that are capable of going back in time and keeping Tiger with Butch or Hank.

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Brandel,please....do what the Masters did with the  Gary Mc. association...unload.

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Brandel,please....do what the Masters did with the  Gary Mc. association...unload.

??  I'm not familiar with what it is you are alluding to, if you can further explain?

2 hours ago, collapse said:

Brandel Chamblee has been criticizing the TW swing changes for years now.He has been on the tour no matter what we think of him...the "second guy" is David Duval a former world  #1 ranked player.

Yeah, he was a great ball (is a great ball striker) but doesn't mean that he can articulate his thoughts about the golf swing.  To me he looked like he was reaching for things to say.

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3 minutes ago, Abu3baid said:

??  I'm not familiar with what it is you are alluding to, if you can further explain?

Yeah, he was a great ball (is a great ball striker) but doesn't mean that he can articulate his thoughts about the golf swing.  To me he looked like he was reaching for things to say.

Pro golfers tend not to slag other pro golfers' swings,especially when they are your friends,and especially on national tv.Reaching for the "right" words may be in play.

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I watched the video:

- You compare any golfer's swing 15 years apart and it's going to look different.
- Tiger 2001 still pelvic tilted, his left hip is lower than his right hip at A4.
- Camera angels are different. The one on the right is what we jokingly called the "S&T Certified" angle because it makes players appear that they are "hanging" more on their left side and tilting more left than they actually are.
- Here's a driver swing from earlier this year where he had some good axis tilt at address, "moved" off the ball and certainly wasn't leaning left or hanging on his left side at 4. And he played like crap.

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- I don't Brandel is 100% wrong but it's more about the way he goes about "proving it" is what rubs me the wrong way.

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He's a media guy and is just looking for stuff to talk about that will catch people's attention.

Swings are cherry-picked to emphasize his point. Swing on the left is full-out driver. Swing on the right is 3 wood and very likely a stinger that by design has more shaft lean and is more 'left sided'.

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Brandel is like a broken clock.  He's right only twice a day.

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40 minutes ago, vangator said:

Brandel is like a broken clock.  He's right only twice a day.

What about that TW 2001 swing...was that right?

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10 hours ago, collapse said:

What about that TW 2001 swing...was that right?

What BC leaves out of his constant criticism is the question why? Why does Tiger change his swing? He eludes to Tiger trying to find some magical improvement. But the real answer is the prevent further injury. If BC just stated that, then it would make more sense. But it is easy for BC to sling mud than actually investigate and be a real reporter. That is why many don't like him.

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2 hours ago, boogielicious said:

What BC leaves out of his constant criticism is the question why? Why does Tiger change his swing? He eludes to Tiger trying to find some magical improvement. But the real answer is the prevent further injury. If BC just stated that, then it would make more sense. But it is easy for BC to sling mud than actually investigate and be a real reporter. That is why many don't like him.

I'm  more focused on TW's swing than why BC is liked or not.

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50 minutes ago, collapse said:

I'm  more focused on TW's swing than why BC is liked or not.

That is not what your thread title suggests.

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51 minutes ago, collapse said:

I'm  more focused on TW's swing than why BC is liked or not.

Has Brandel been right about Tiger's swing?.........I don't see where liking BC is part of that.

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