Wedge Suggestions Please?

[zero]

The situation is that I have two wedges - a 50* AW, Taylormade Burner 2.0, and a 56* Taylormade ATV. I can hit the 50* so much better than the 56*, I don't even want to use the 56* anymore. What I don't know if this would be the case for any higher loft wedge and so I just need to keep practicing the ATV, or if it's caused by the unique bounce on the ATV and therefore I should replace it with something more conventional.

Any tips appreciated. I'm specifically referring to partial swing shots, 30-50 yard range that use the club bounce.

ATV wedge (I bought this one, used)

Burner 2.0 Iron Set

[saevel25]

Just now, zero said:

The situation is that I have two wedges - a 50* AW, Taylormade Burner 2.0, and a 56* Taylormade ATV. I can hit the 50* so much better than the 56*, I don't even want to use the 56* anymore. What I don't know if this would be the case for any higher loft wedge and so I just need to keep practicing the ATV, or if it's caused by the unique bounce on the ATV and therefore I should replace it with something more conventional.

Any tips appreciated. I'm specifically referring to partial swing shots, 30-50 yard range that use the club bounce.

ATV wedge (I bought this one, used)

Burner 2.0 Iron Set

If you are talking full shots, I don't think the 50 degree Burner 2.0 is designed for anything besides full type shots. An actual 56 wedge would be designed for a different variety of shots. 

If you feel more comfortable easing up on a 50 to hit those shorter, but still full swing motion shots then that's good. 

If you are around the green pitching, need more bounce or need to open the face up the 56 is still far superior because that is what it is designed to do. 

I use to play the 2009 Burners and you could not open the AW up to hit flop shots or pitch shots. Just not how it is designed. 

[ppine]

A 56 degree wedge is usually a "sand wedge" with a lot of bounce. It is designed for the sand and deep rough. It is harder to hit from a flat lie.  Most people can hit a 56 or 60 degree wedge with the right amount of bounce for the conditions. Try the 56 in the rough and you may like it all of a sudden.

[zero]

6 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

If you are talking full shots, I don't think the 50 degree Burner 2.0 is designed for anything besides full type shots. An actual 56 wedge would be designed for a different variety of shots. 

If you feel more comfortable easing up on a 50 to hit those shorter, but still full swing motion shots then that's good. 

If you are around the green pitching, need more bounce or need to open the face up the 56 is still far superior because that is what it is designed to do. 

I use to play the 2009 Burners and you could not open the AW up to hit flop shots or pitch shots. Just not how it is designed. 

Thanks, good to know, because yes, full shots mostly but I'm finding that also pitching around the greens I'm way more consistent with the burner. So, hmm, replace the ATV or just practice it more?

[saevel25]

3 minutes ago, zero said:

Thanks, good to know, because yes, full shots mostly but I'm finding that also pitching around the greens I'm way more consistent with the burner. So, hmm, replace the ATV or just practice it more?

I would post a video of your pitching, lets say 20 yards from the edge of the green. Just post a face on video. I think it's more your technique. 

[Dave2512]

It's probably the type of shot, rolling the Burner vs flying with more lofted wedges. I find it easier to control distance chipping rollers. 

Until we get to handicap season I am bagging 15 clubs. The goal to see what benefits me more a 58 wedge or 3i. Haven't played much but seems It's going to be the 3i I keep.

Only hit 2 greens last time out and with my upcoming decision in mind I thought carefully about my wedge play. My 50 is a wedge, matches my 54 58 used it more than either. 

[Ernest Jones]

3 hours ago, ppine said:

A 56 degree wedge is usually a "sand wedge" with a lot of bounce. It is designed for the sand and deep rough. It is harder to hit from a flat lie.  Most people can hit a 56 or 60 degree wedge with the right amount of bounce for the conditions. Try the 56 in the rough and you may like it all of a sudden.

I've never had any issues hitting full swing shots with my 56-14 from the fairway. Full swings don't utilize bounce at all so it's irrelevant how much bounce your wedge has. When using it to pitch or flop from the fairway (if you're doing it correctly) the more bounce the better. 

[iacas]

9 hours ago, ppine said:

A 56 degree wedge is usually a "sand wedge" with a lot of bounce. It is designed for the sand and deep rough. It is harder to hit from a flat lie.  Most people can hit a 56 or 60 degree wedge with the right amount of bounce for the conditions. Try the 56 in the rough and you may like it all of a sudden.

I have a 60° wedge with 22° bounce.

I can do this with it: 

FWIW…

[zero]

8 hours ago, Dave2512 said:

It's probably the type of shot, rolling the Burner vs flying with more lofted wedges. I find it easier to control distance chipping rollers. 

 

Sorry, what is "rolling"? I get flying, but rolling? I'm trying to use the bounce effectively, as shown @iacas's video

[Natural Patrick]

On 2/21/2016 at 10:29 AM, zero said:

The situation is that I have two wedges - a 50* AW, Taylormade Burner 2.0, and a 56* Taylormade ATV. I can hit the 50* so much better than the 56*, I don't even want to use the 56* anymore. What I don't know if this would be the case for any higher loft wedge and so I just need to keep practicing the ATV, or if it's caused by the unique bounce on the ATV and therefore I should replace it with something more conventional.

Any tips appreciated. I'm specifically referring to partial swing shots, 30-50 yard range that use the club bounce.

ATV wedge (I bought this one, used)

Burner 2.0 Iron Set

Look into the 64* Callaway Mack Daddy ll. I can take full swings with this from 30yds on in.

[zero]

How do I select the right wedges? I'm thinking a 54 & 58 would fit into my set best, what about bounce? NW courses are usually soft. So many options...

http://www.pgatour.com/equipmentreport/2016/02/23/cobra-golf-king-wedges.html

The Versatile is a mid-bounce option (8-10 degrees) that provides overall versatility on medium to firm turf conditions; the high bounce (11-12 degrees) Classic has a narrow sole for ease of use on all turf conditions; and the low-bounce WideLow (4-7 degrees), the widest sole in the line, works well on medium to soft course conditions.

[Garethw]

I was using Cleveland RTX 2.0 CB wedges until recently when I brought some Ping Glide wedges, 50 and 54 SS and a 58 ES. These are without doubt for me the easiest wedges I have ever used. Full swing shots the ball is up in the air, pitches and chip shots just work. I think part of the reason is a mental one. The Glides to my eye are more like set wedges but more versatile.

With no apparent swing changes I have gone from shanking full swings to hitting high straight shots. I spend a lot of time practicing 110 yards and in with those 3 clubs and that is paying off. However the confidence of standing over a ball with the 54 in my hand and 90 yard shot to the pin is something else.

I play on all variety of conditions, soft and wet to hard pan lies and these just work for me.

[k-troop]

On 2/22/2016 at 9:58 PM, zero said:

Sorry, what is "rolling"? I get flying, but rolling? I'm trying to use the bounce effectively, as shown @iacas's video

He's just saying that many people (myself included) find it easier to chip and pitch with a lower lofted wedge.  I use a 52* for 75% of my shots around the green; I pretty much only use my 58 for sand shots and flops/pitches where I have to get the ball to stop very quickly.  Everything else I use the 52*.

[Golfingdad]

39 minutes ago, k-troop said:

He's just saying that many people (myself included) find it easier to chip and pitch with a lower lofted wedge.  I use a 52* for 75% of my shots around the green; I pretty much only use my 58 for sand shots and flops/pitches where I have to get the ball to stop very quickly.  Everything else I use the 52*.

Same concept for me except I don't have a 52, I have a 54. ;)  But, yeah, I only use the 58 out of the sand, and when I have fluffier lies around the green and need to hit it high and soft.  Then occasionally when I have a shot around 85-90 or so where I know I can (and for some reason, want to) take a full swing with it.  Otherwise, pretty much every shot inside of about 105 yards is with the 54.

[ppine]

The Cleveland and Titleist vokey wedges are hard to beat. There are plenty of good used ones around.