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Pressure in Golf - Can We Quantify It? [Data Golf Blog]


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Interesting analysis and there's also a Tableau table. Data goes back to 2012. If I'm reading it right, it looks like he's flipped his numbers in the Tableau table and the table in the article - in short, Matt Kuchar, clutch, Ryan Moore, not so clutch.

http://mattcourchene.com/pressure-in-golf-can-we-quantify-it/

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First, for every tournament in the data, I difference every player's 4th round score relative to the field average that day - this corrects for the overall playing conditions on a given day. Second, for each player, I calculate their average score (relative to the field) when they are under pressure (inside top 3 going into 4th round) and when they are not. 

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2 hours ago, nevets88 said:

If I'm reading it right, it looks like he's flipped his numbers in the Tableau table and the table in the article - in short, Matt Kuchar, clutch, Ryan Moore, not so clutch.

You got this backwards. According to the article, Ryan Moore beats the field by 1.422 strokes in rounds "under pressure*".

That Woods, Tiger guy should have been a dead giveaway...

 

 

 

 

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I don't see a whole lot of relationship between the list and success on the course. Some can rise up to the moment, (Tiger), and others, who shall remain nameless, let the moment overrun them. Is that choking under pressure or just not having the ability to raise the level of your game when most needed? Maybe you give everything you have to get to the moment and the tank is empty.


It could be that there is no such thing as clutch performance; but, as humans, we prefer heroic myth to discourses on random variation.  Hence, when the data yields a result at odds with the general perception (Ryan Moore?) we are apt to question the methodology rather than the premise.  

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5 hours ago, billchao said:

You got this backwards. According to the article, Ryan Moore beats the field by 1.422 strokes in rounds "under pressure*".

That Woods, Tiger guy should have been a dead giveaway...

 

 

 

 

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You're right, he did flip the polarity between Tableau diagram and table - negative, positive, positive negative.

I bet if he went back past 2012, to 2005 say, that Tiger Woods number would be way way higher.

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7 hours ago, nevets88 said:

You're right, he did flip the polarity between Tableau diagram and table - negative, positive, positive negative.

I bet if he went back past 2012, to 2005 say, that Tiger Woods number would be way way higher.

Change the poles from plus to minus...Thats IT!

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15 hours ago, nevets88 said:

Interesting analysis and there's also a Tableau table. Data goes back to 2012. If I'm reading it right, it looks like he's flipped his numbers in the Tableau table and the table in the article - in short, Matt Kuchar, clutch, Ryan Moore, not so clutch.

http://mattcourchene.com/pressure-in-golf-can-we-quantify-it/

I don't think that's right. 

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So, for example, Ryan Moore's average score relative to the field when not under pressure is 0.195 (i.e. he loses to the field by 0.195 shots) and when he is under pressure his average relative score is -1.422 (i.e. he beats the field by 1.422 shots). 

 

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