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5 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

I don't keep formal stats, but I review every round mentally.  For me, a drive is acceptable if its hit reasonably solid and finishes in an acceptable spot.  If I miss a fairway by an inch, or even by 10 feet, that's still pretty decent, unless that inch puts me in a hazard or some other bad place.  Sometimes my aiming point is at the edge of a fairway, to be sure to avoid serious trouble on the other side.  I can hardly beat myself up for missing those shots by a hair to the "rough" side.  So for you, as a tool to evaluate your own game, I'd see no problem with revising your personal definition.  Don't use that stat to compare to anyone else, though, since you could be comparing apples and oranges.

Well said. @lee34 I'd add to Dave's comment that depending on your accuracy / consistency off the tee you may actually want to choose a target / landing spot for you shot zone / typical shot dispersion that is off the fairway if there is trouble on the other side of it and aiming for the fairway would put too many of your tee shots in jeopardy.

So a shot even well in the rough might be 'good' relative to your intended target for the hole.

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36 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

50% fairways isn't too bad

Yeah, I should have used a lower percent to make the point. And I agree with your point. 

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Denny Bang Bang Great Member

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7 hours ago, lee34 said:

So for my stats I always count FIR, GIRs and number of putts.

However recently I've been considering being more lenient with my FIRs a bit like NGIRs if you will.

Normally I'm strict so if the ball isn't sat on the fairway it gets an X rather than a tick. As a 24 handicapper I'm wondering whether I should put a tick in my FIR box if I'm happy with my drive. So it may be in light rough just off the fairway but it was a good drive and I'm happy with it.

what are your thoughts on this ?

Personally, I don't really pay attention to fairways hit.  What I pay attention to is having a chance at GIR or not.  Whether my ball is in the fairway or not, all I care about is it's not in a hazard (although some hazards still leave a chance) and I have a go at the green.

How I track it on my scoreboard... F for fairway hit, L for left of fairway, R for right of fairway, and circle the L or R if I'm left with a reasonable chance at GIR.

I do like knowing the % I miss left and right, as it helps to game plan on holes with heavy trouble on on side or the other.

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I play at our local  muni golf course. They have 36 holes, two different courses. One is an old links course, long, lined with trees.  The other 18 holes are a more modern looking, with not very many trees. My golf partner will not play the links course because even though he out drives me by 100 yds at times. I drive in the fairway, he is there sometimes. So for me it is a very important issue. My wedges/irons are in the fairway so I get good spin on them. Of course a lot depends on the length and type of rough you are playing. 


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9 hours ago, lee34 said:

There have been several times I've hit a great drive but because it's trickled off the fairway I haven't counted it. IMO this is wrong as an amateur because I've done what I wanted to do. Significantly shortened the hole and given myself a good chance of hitting a GIR.

I agree with this. As long as the lie isn't horrible, there's little difference between a fairway and the rough - at least on the courses I play.

At my level, I just want my tee shots to stay out of the woods and water.

GameGolf says I hit 58% of FIR. If it was that important of a stat, I'd be breaking 90.

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7 hours ago, JonMA1 said:

GameGolf says I hit 58% of FIR. If it was that important of a stat, I'd be breaking 90.

53% no 58%.

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Lots of good info on this thread.  I do like to keep stats on my card.  I do fairways and putts.  For the FW's I put a F or an arrow to the direction the ball went.  I also mark a little mark on the hole layout picture on the top of the card where each ball landed.  This helps me keep track of how many shots and how I progressed down the hole.  This info is helpful when reviewing the round later in the day or another day when I cant remember the whole round.

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On ‎1‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 10:38 PM, JonMA1 said:

I agree with this. As long as the lie isn't horrible, there's little difference between a fairway and the rough - at least on the courses I play.

At my level, I just want my tee shots to stay out of the woods and water.

GameGolf says I hit 58% of FIR. If it was that important of a stat, I'd be breaking 90.

I'm of the exact same mind, in terms of rough vs. fairway.  In fact, on many of the courses I play, the fairway can be a little bare and hard to play from, and I prefer a little softer lie from the rough.

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9 hours ago, djfajt71 said:

I'm of the exact same mind, in terms of rough vs. fairway.  In fact, on many of the courses I play, the fairway can be a little bare and hard to play from, and I prefer a little softer lie from the rough.

After watching some of the Farmers Insurance Open, I suppose the term "rough" at the courses I play is kind of a misnomer.

It depends on which course, the amount of rain and how long it's been since it was mowed, but I'm usually more intimidated by a downhill lie on the fairway than I am a ball that's sitting up on a level part of the rough.

Having said that, one of my courses tends to let the rough get pretty high. I'm not yet at the point in my game where I really know how to hit out of the thick stuff. I think "flailing" might be a good description.

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On 1/25/2017 at 5:48 AM, JonMA1 said:

53% no 58%.

When a bunch of us got together at Eagle Creek last month, I broke a record for FW accuracy. My score sucked.

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31 minutes ago, JonMA1 said:

After watching some of the Farmers Insurance Open, I suppose the term "rough" at the courses I play is kind of a misnomer.

From something I heard it was an unusual height / thickness due to recent rains. It was so wet they weren't able to mow as much so it may have gotten a little closer to U.S. Open type conditions that normal PGA events.

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37 minutes ago, CarlSpackler said:

When a bunch of us got together at Eagle Creek last month, I broke a record for FW accuracy. My score sucked.

I'll bet I have you beat...

After your post, I had to look up my worst round with a high % of FIR. Ironically, it was the worst 9 hole score I recorded last year.

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It was almost 100%. Hole 1 was the only missed fairway and it was only by a few feet.

Just shows the importance of a well-rounded game. Let this be a reminder to all that no matter how bad you think your game is, it could be worse.

 

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19 minutes ago, JonMA1 said:

I'll bet I have you beat...

After your post, I had to look up my worst round with a high % of FIR. Ironically, it was the worst 9 hole score I recorded last year.

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It was almost 100%. Hole 1 was the only missed fairway and it was only by a few feet.

Just shows the importance of a well-rounded game. Let this be a reminder to all that no matter how bad you think your game is, it could be worse.

You definitely have me beat with that one.  :beer:

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