A short survey...

[Seals]

I am in a Sports Analysis class. If you could take 5 minutes to answer these questions (Doesn't have to be all), it would be greatly appreciated.

The goal of this is to show how the average thinks compared to the pro. I have the responses from a few high level ams, and a pro. 

State your handicap in responses...

1. 40 foot putt or 15 foot chip?

2. Front, Middle, or Back hole location?

3. Uphill or Downhill shot?

4. Downwind or into wind wedge shot?

5. Hard 7i or soft 6i?

6. Go to tee shot?

7. Chip and run or spinner?

8. When chipping off green, flagstick in or out?

9. Most pressure you felt in golf. 

 

Edited September 23, 2017 by Seals

[chilepepper]

5 hours ago, Seals said:

I am in a Sports Analysis class. If you could take 5 minutes to answer these questions (Doesn't have to be all), it would be greatly appreciated.

The goal of this is to show how the average thinks compared to the pro. I have the responses from a few high level ams, and a pro. 

State your handicap in responses...

1. 40 foot putt or 15 foot chip?

2. Front, Middle, or Back hole location?

3. Uphill or Downhill shot?

4. Downwind or into wind wedge shot?

5. Hard 7i or soft 6i?

6. Go to tee shot?

7. Chip and run or spinner?

8. When chipping off green, flagstick in or out?

9. Most pressure you felt in golf. 

 

13.5

1. 15 ft chip

2. Middle

3. Uphill

4. Don't care

5. 7i

6. Driver, fade

7. Chip and run

8. Flag in

9. Self imposed, when I have a really good round , last half of back 9

[RandallT]

15 HCP

1. 40 foot putt or 15 foot chip? 15ft chip

2. Front, Middle, or Back hole location? middle

3. Uphill or Downhill shot? downhill

4. Downwind or into wind wedge shot? into wind

5. Hard 7i or soft 6i? soft 6

6. Go to tee shot? 5iron, if I really need to hit a fairway. Otherwise driver all day long.

7. Chip and run or spinner? chip and run

8. When chipping off green, flagstick in or out? IN. Duh.

9. Most pressure you felt in golf. First tee at a gathering when my college buddies were heckling. Not like crazy stress or anything, but I had to really focus despite the hangover taunts of about 15 guys. I was first to tee that day, and it was nearly 200yds over water.

[iacas]

8 hours ago, Seals said:

The goal of this is to show how the average thinks compared to the pro. I have the responses from a few high level ams, and a pro.

So you're comparing your answers to ONE pro? That hardly seems like a valid study.

I'm a pro. Where would my answers count? Because they are…

1. 40 foot putt or 15 foot chip? (And you almost never have a 15-foot chip. If you're on the fringe, it's a 15-foot putt. If you're in rough, the pin must be about ten feet away from the edge of the green, which is rare. Pros average 2.06 putts from 40 feet, and if you're actually chipping the lie could be bad, etc. so most people should choose the 40 foot putt.)
2. Front, Middle, or Back hole location? Nobody should say any differently. Though people who come up short frequently would probably benefit from a back hole location.
3. Uphill or Downhill shot? Are you asking about the lie or the target being uphill or downhill? I answered if the latter.
4. Downwind or into wind wedge shot? Easier to judge and the ball won't drop out of the air from lack of lift.
5. Hard 7i or soft 6i? Depends completely on the situation. Amped up? Need the ball to stop immediately? Then the answer would be different.
6. Go to tee shot? Driver.
7. Chip and run or spinner? Easier to control. Most people can't rely on a spinner, especially if the lie is at all dodgy.
8. When chipping off green, flagstick in or out? In, clearly, though many higher level players get this one wrong and hurt themselves in the process. https://thesandtrap.com/forums/topic/87552-leave-the-flagstick-in-and-tend-it-too/
9. Most pressure you felt in golf. I dunno. Haven't really felt pressure in golf. It's just a game.

Respond outside of the quote boxes, please.

[JRod4928]

8 hours ago, Seals said:

I am in a Sports Analysis class. If you could take 5 minutes to answer these questions (Doesn't have to be all), it would be greatly appreciated.

The goal of this is to show how the average thinks compared to the pro. I have the responses from a few high level ams, and a pro. 

State your handicap in responses...

1. 40 foot putt or 15 foot chip?

2. Front, Middle, or Back hole location?

3. Uphill or Downhill shot?

4. Downwind or into wind wedge shot?

5. Hard 7i or soft 6i?

6. Go to tee shot?

7. Chip and run or spinner?

8. When chipping off green, flagstick in or out?

9. Most pressure you felt in golf. 

 

25+ Handicap

1 - 15 chip

2 - middle

3 - downhill

4 - into

5 - soft 6 i

6 - driver

7 - spinner

8 - in

9 - when a group behind us is waiting for me to tee off...

Edited September 23, 2017 by JRod4928

[Lihu]

8 hours ago, Seals said:

I am in a Sports Analysis class. If you could take 5 minutes to answer these questions (Doesn't have to be all), it would be greatly appreciated.

The goal of this is to show how the average thinks compared to the pro. I have the responses from a few high level ams, and a pro. 

State your handicap in responses...

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1. 40 foot putt or 15 foot chip?

Probably worse. . .40 foot putt. . .

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2. Front, Middle, or Back hole location?

Shoot for the center only. So, worse. . .

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3. Uphill or Downhill shot?

Attempt a flop shot downhill and prefer uphill lie, definitely worse than a pro.

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4. Downwind or into wind wedge shot?

Accuracy is a lot worse, so worse. . .

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5. Hard 7i or soft 6i?

Worse.7i about 165 on the range, less on the course, of course. . .but I'd hit a hard 7 because I can't control distances on a soft shot of any kind.

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6. Go to tee shot?

Definitely worse. Driver 258 yards average off the tee. 3W 238 off the tee.

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7. Chip and run or spinner?

Spinner. Worse. I have spurts of greatness but normally don't get up and downs that good.

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8. When chipping off green, flagstick in or out?

In of course, but if someone takes it out, I don't make a huge fuss. . .

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9. Most pressure you felt in golf.

Before and after any shot, but not during a shot.

Edited September 23, 2017 by Lihu

[Marty2019]

I shoot somewhere in the mid-80s, drive the ball well but miss a lot of greens. 

1. 40 foot putt or 15 foot chip? 15ft chip.  I would get closer from 15 feet than I would from 40 feet.  Besides, like someone else said, I'd probably use a putter for that "15 foot chip."

2. Front, Middle, or Back hole location? Back.  I don't get much backspin; my shots tend to come down and roll forward, so the more green I have to work with, the better. 

3. Uphill or Downhill shot? Downhill.   Can't see the flag when hitting uphill.  I'm talking full shot here, not a chip shot or something like that.   

4. Downwind or into wind wedge shot? Probably into wind because of my trajectory.  I need for the ball to stop, and my shots tend to release and roll forward, so into the wind helps it stop by bringing it down vertically.  

5. Hard 7i or soft 6i? Soft 6.  Hard 7 iron would probably lead to a mis-hit due to my skill level.  Soft 6 iron is much easier for me.  I'd probably nail it over the green, but what the heck. 

6. Go to tee shot?   Driver is my best and most accurate club.  I don't even think about it, I just tee it up and hit it and it goes straight. 

7. Chip and run or spinner?  No opinion, really, although I understand that a spinner is very hard to predict how it's going to stop. 

8. When chipping off green, flagstick in or out?   In.  Doesn't really matter; I'm probably not going to threaten the hole anyway. 

9. Most pressure you felt in golf.   Many many years ago, when I was young haha, I had a $1 bet against a friend, 18 holes stroke play for one single dollar.  We both got to the 18th hole tied and we both had 3 foot putts.  He went first, and missed.  I went last, with a chance to win, and I missed.  That was the most pressure I've ever felt in golf.  Somehow, over 18 holes, winning that dollar had become very important. 

 

 

Edited September 23, 2017 by Marty2019

[Missouri Swede]

9 hours ago, Seals said:

State your handicap in responses...

About an 18 handicap 

1. 15 foot chip

2. Middle 

3. Downhill 

4. Into the wind

5. Soft 6i

6. Driver, fade

7. Chip & run

8. Flagstick in. 

9. First tee with group of guys (from TST!) I hadn't met before on a course I didn't know. And all I could see were trees everywhere. 

[WUTiger]

Seals, We have a survey capability within our TST software. Next time consider using it.

State your handicap in responses... 23.0

1. 15 foot chip?

2. Front, Middle, or Back hole location?

3. Uphill or Downhill shot? I can better see the green I'm hitting into.

4. Downwind or into wind wedge shot? I don't care.

5. Hard 7i or soft 6i? I could choke down to shave off a few yards.

6. Go to tee shot? Driver, my best long club.

7. Chip and run or spinner? I use C+R a lot. Never use low spinner, it's too iffy.

8. When chipping off green, flagstick in or out?

9. Most pressure you felt in golf.  When my drive on a par 5 leaves me 215 yard from green. One of my better FW shots could get me on (or close), but I usually flub the shot.

10 hours ago, Seals said:

 

Edited September 23, 2017 by WUTiger