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On 10/19/2017 at 8:56 PM, Buckeyebowman said:

I have never understood what "slope rating" means. Even after it was explained to me! Physicists must play this game.

That's kinda sad. It's not a difficult concept.

It's the relative difficulty of a course for higher handicappers.

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The slope rating of a golf course is a measure of its difficulty for bogey golfers. The term comes from the likelihood that when playing on more difficult courses, players' scores will rise more quickly than their handicaps would predict. The "slope rating" of a course thus predicts that rise.

That seems relatively straightforward.

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Yesterday four of us senior hackers (all in our mid-to-upper 60s) played a course with no "real" senior tees, just combined senior/women's tees.  We backed up to the regular member tees, which made the course about 6,100 yards.   It wasn't that bad.  We had a lot of long approach shots, but it was fun and different. 

We absolutely will not play from women's tees.  That is an absolute.  We'd rather shoot 100 than play from women's tees. 

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1 hour ago, Marty2019 said:

We absolutely will not play from women's tees.  That is an absolute.  We'd rather shoot 100 than play from women's tees. 

Why, I just don't get this.  They aren't ladies tees anymore, it's just a color.  They are just forward tees?  Play where it's fun.  Are you not a man if you play from the the so-called ladies tees?  Our "so-called" senior tees are the forward tees and they are green.  The red tees are actually further back.  When we do tournaments, the seniors play the green and the ladies play the red, would you not play in such a tournament?  

My dad who is 73, plays from the red or green tees with my wife, he has way more fun then playing the white tees (and shooting 100).   

Most scorecards these days even show the Men's/Women's slope and rating from each tee.

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The sooner we stop calling tees "mens" and "ladies", the better. I realize this might be difficult, but there is no reason to play from a set of tees just because they are called "mens" and you are a man. Especially elder and seniors should not care and just play whatever tees they enjoy the most.

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21 minutes ago, jsgolfer said:

Why, I just don't get this.  They aren't ladies tees anymore, it's just a color.  They are just forward tees?  Play where it's fun.  Are you not a man if you play from the the so-called ladies tees? 

Yes, they are ladies' tees.  They are called ladies' tees right there on the scorecard. 

We will not play from ladies' tees because we still have some pride in ourselves as men.  We are a crappy bunch of golfers, but we are still men.  We do not want to put on a skirt, figuratively speaking. 

And as far as "playing from where it's fun..." we are having fun.  We're just not playing from the ladies' tees. 

 

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On 10/16/2017 at 10:48 AM, Marty2019 said:

That's funny.   The same thing happened to us last week in North Carolina.   There were 4 of us, and the other 3 are some seriously bad hackers, so we decided to play from the senior tees.  But we would pull up to the yellow senior tees and they were almost always just a few feet behind the ladies' tees and sometimes a HUNDRED YARDS in front of the regular member "white" tees.   After a few holes of this, we started joking about how emasculated we were feeling and we went back to the white tees.  

It's ridiculous.   Senior tees need to be between the regular member tees and the ladies' tees.   No self-respecting man wants to tee off from the ladies' tees. 

We have orange tees around here, and those fit your description to the tee.

we call them the “kiddie” tees, and makes a 6400 yard course less than 4000. Perfect for kids and their grandparents to have a fun outing together. I anticipate a time that those will be my tees too. :-D

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Just now, Marty2019 said:

Yes, they are ladies' tees.  They are called ladies' tees right there on the scorecard. 

We will not play from ladies' tees because we still have some pride in ourselves as men.  We are a crappy bunch of golfers, but we are still men.  We do not want to put on a skirt, figuratively speaking. 

And as far as "playing from where it's fun..." we are having fun.  We're just not playing from the ladies' tees. 

 

:no:  I'm sorry but this is just crazy.  This reminds me of the guy I played with one time when I was pushing a cart.  He says nice cart, lots of ladies use those.  And I say yeah, this lady kicks your ass every day, so I guess maybe you should get one too. 

Whether it says the tees are ladies, it doesn't mean that men can't play them.  Maybe if you guys started playing them, others would too and speed up play and everyone would have more fun scoring better.  When I get to the point where I can't play the longer tees, I'm moving up.  And no I wouldn't need a skirt.  I play in tournaments where at 50 they let me move up a set of tees because I was in the "senior division".  They didn't have to ask me twice to move up.  :-D

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1 hour ago, jsgolfer said:

Why, I just don't get this. They aren't ladies tees anymore, it's just a color. They are just forward tees? Play where it's fun.  Are you not a man if you play from the the so-called ladies tees?

Absolutely this.

34 minutes ago, Marty2019 said:

Yes, they are ladies' tees.  They are called ladies' tees right there on the scorecard.

Then perhaps you should be the change you want to see in the world. Lead the charge to get the names changed.

34 minutes ago, Marty2019 said:

We will not play from ladies' tees because we still have some pride in ourselves as men.  We are a crappy bunch of golfers, but we are still men.  We do not want to put on a skirt, figuratively speaking.

You're not men.

You're male chauvinists.

I don't play golf all that often, but I make a point in playing from the forward-most tees (or the second most forward) despite being a much better fit for the back tees at every local course.

You have an LSW badge. The reasoning for it is written in there.

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On 10/15/2017 at 6:34 PM, jsgolfer said:

 We have two sets of blended tees at my course, other courses I play have done the same thing.

Several courses in our area have this. The blended tee row is shown on the scorecard, and the blended tees get their own course rating. Your area USGA course rating group could help the course set this up.

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