Patrick Reed vs. the Rules of Golf

[Herkimer]

Every pro that's paired with him better watch him like a hawk.  

[cutchemist42]

I just dont understand why the Tour is sticking up for him so much....

[Herkimer]

Has there ever been a Tour player so vilified?  I can't think of even one.

[iacas]

53 minutes ago, Herkimer said:

Has there ever been a Tour player so vilified?  I can't think of even one.

Yeah.

2 hours ago, cutchemist42 said:

I just dont understand why the Tour is sticking up for him so much....

To the Tour, he was assessed the penalty. Cam Smith can't go around calling him a "cheater." I think they're right about that. Move on.

[cutchemist42]

1 hour ago, iacas said:

Yeah.

To the Tour, he was assessed the penalty. Cam Smith can't go around calling him a "cheater." I think they're right about that. Move on.

But yeah go after just Cam for something he said?  You have Bryson calling him a cheater on his Twitch channel as well. Feel like the warning should be uniform and not just going after Cam.

[iacas]

9 minutes ago, cutchemist42 said:

But yeah go after just Cam for something he said?  You have Bryson calling him a cheater on his Twitch channel as well. Feel like the warning should be uniform and not just going after Cam.

NHL coaches can’t keep going on about the refs.

[3jacker]

Tour is doing their best to protect their brand.  They have to work with the players they've got.  

[Wally Fairway]

Koepka calls Reed a cheater in an interview -and that Reed has a problem like the Astros

Brooks Koepka thinks Patrick Reed cheated at Hero: "I don’t know what he was doing, building sand castles" - Golf Digest

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[Double Mocha Man]

27 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

Koepka calls Reed a cheater in an interview -and that Reed has a problem like the Astros

Brooks Koepka thinks Patrick Reed cheated at Hero: "I don’t know what he was doing, building sand castles" - Golf Digest

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That's funny!  Actually he was destroying the sandcastles behind his ball.  Watch for Reed bringing a trash can onto the golf course.  Poor Patrick... he's got to live with this for the rest of his life.

[Herkimer]

Koepka said that there's more cheating going on than people know.  I wonder what kind of cheating he's talking about?  I think he may have opened Pandora's box with that remark, no?

[Missouri Swede]

55 minutes ago, Herkimer said:

Koepka said that there's more cheating going on than people know.  I wonder what kind of cheating he's talking about?  I think he may have opened Pandora's box with that remark, no?

He gave an example of improving the lie with a 3 wood in 6-inch rough, then hitting a wedge.

[Herkimer]

If your ball is in the rough, can you legally put your 3-wood right behind it even if you're pressing down the grass?

[Double Mocha Man]

6 minutes ago, Herkimer said:

If your ball is in the rough, can you legally put your 3-wood right behind it even if you're pressing down the grass?

I think if you have the intention of hitting the 3 wood you can lower it straight down through the blades of grass, not bending the grass further back so you can make a cleaner swing.  Practice swing next to your ball and chop up as much grass as you'd like.  If your intent is to then actually hit a wedge with an improved lie... well, that's dishonest.

Edited February 20, 2020 by Double Mocha Man

[iacas]

5 minutes ago, Herkimer said:

If your ball is in the rough, can you legally put your 3-wood right behind it even if you're pressing down the grass?

You cannot improve your lie. You can lightly rest the club on the ground.

[Herkimer]

6 hours ago, iacas said:

You cannot improve your lie. You can lightly rest the club on the ground.

That's what I thought.  So switching to a wedge at that point was moot, since the rules infraction was already done.

iacas, have you heard that there's a lot of cheating on the PGA Tour?  (I'm not sure if Brooks meant "a lot," however.)

[iacas]

3 hours ago, Herkimer said:

iacas, have you heard that there's a lot of cheating on the PGA Tour?  (I'm not sure if Brooks meant "a lot," however.)

No, nor have I seen it.

I think his definition needs to be determined. In a world where there should be NONE, if you see three infractions a year, is that "a lot"?

[colin007]

Peter Kostis says he‘s seen Patrick Reed improve his lie several times

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Former CBS Sports broadcaster Peter Kostis added new depth to the Patrick...

 

[Vinsk]

13 hours ago, Missouri Swede said:

He gave an example of improving the lie with a 3 wood in 6-inch rough, then hitting a wedge.

I think I was the other way around. He placed three different clubs behind the ball before deciding to hit 3W. Kostis stated ‘ that shot wouldn’t have been possible from the original lie I saw.’ Something like that.