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2019 Local Rule - 21.2 Maximum Score

Local Rule, 21.2 Maximum Score  

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  1. 1. Should the Local Rule, 21.2 Maximum Score, apply in any Stroke Play Tournament?

    • No. It is not a real stroke play tournament if a maximum is used versus the actual hole score
    • Yes, as a pace of play factor
    • Other - please explain


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I had a friend who made 9 on the par-4, last hole of a 36 hole qualifier.  It tied him for the last place into the main match play event, which he subsequently lost in a playoff.

Had an artificial “maximum” score been in place, he could have easily advanced instead of the person who rightfully did.  

I prefer that strict stroke play tournaments remain as such.

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1 minute ago, David in FL said:

I had a friend who made 9 on the par-4, last hole of a 36 hole qualifier.  It tied him for the last place into the main match play event, which he subsequently lost in a playoff.

Had an artificial “maximum” score been in place, he could have easily advanced instead of the person who rightfully did.  

I prefer that strict stroke play tournaments remain as such.

Not if the "maximum" score had been 10. Or 9. I haven't really ever seen anyone suggesting the max score should be 8.

Nor have I seen anyone suggesting a max score limit for a higher level competition, which it sounds like your friend played in (there are not many "low-level tournaments").

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1 minute ago, iacas said:

Not if the "maximum" score had been 10. Or 9. I haven't really ever seen anyone suggesting the max score should be 8.

Nor have I seen anyone suggesting a max score limit for a higher level competition, which it sounds like your friend played in (there are not many "low-level tournaments").

The point being, it can happen regardless of the arbitrary number picked.  And the higher that arbitrary number, the less assigning it in the first place provides any real or perceived benefit to pace of play.

It’s a form of bifurcation that I simply don’t like.

 

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12 minutes ago, iacas said:

That doesn't make much sense, because for Stableford there is effectively already a stroke limit.

And for tournament play… see the post one above yours by @DaveP043. It's intended to be a high number for lower-level competitions to keep play moving.

As I've pointed out, USKG tournaments have had a stroke limit of 10 for years.

Okay, you got me. It doesn't make much sense. 

So, I guess I like the Stableford the way it is. … Most of the tournaments I play these days are in fact Stablefords. 

And I guess I don't really care too much in other tournaments. All the low level tournaments I've played would not have been sped up very much by a stroke limit. My experience has been that low level tournaments get bogged down on the green. Usually, in the club championships and member/guests I've played in, you can hit a dozen extra shots from the fairway while you wait for the green to clear. When I play in any of these tournaments I normally assume I'm going to be there all day anyway. 

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Yes , always a bit more fun when you can finish that disaster hole by trying to splash it in from the bunker for 9 😎

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40 minutes ago, David in FL said:

The point being, it can happen regardless of the arbitrary number picked.  And the higher that arbitrary number, the less assigning it in the first place provides any real or perceived benefit to pace of play.

And a football team can win a game kicking field goals over a team scoring touchdowns.

They are the rules of the competition.

And again for lower level events the benefits are real.

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