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"Authorative answer" - Meh. He's asking for a 'local rule' in the winter officially to the club - good on him for following process instead of belligerently going rogue. So it seems like he already understands the official rules and this is a request for some relief in the offseason. That's something the club can do or not. Frankly, good for him to try to get it clear up front. So - the club can adopt what it wants - he can make his case, you can make yours, others can chime in as they like. Then the club will decide. As for 'fun' rounds. I don't care what others do. As for 'signalling' your commitment to the rules - congrats.

it's sad. Tiger is multi-racial enough to the point that he could represent everyone. At least Everyone that is shallow enough to care about that kind of thing instead of performance. You know, appreciating performance and results instead on cosmetic irrelevant criteria. I agree, the guy sure sounds like a pure bigot

the sooner they just ditch the terms "ladies" and "mens" in regards to tees or balls the the sooner we can just worry about performance and correct selection - marketting sometimes just kills reality

I get being cynical about the 'woke' crowd, but when these kind of guys spout off, then everyone that's not toeing the woke line get painted as being this jackass. I'm not quite sure how to move the "goal posts" or do affirmative action for Tiger in an activity that ldetermines a world ranking calculation based on metrics that are literally COUNTING strokes. (except for the Fedex cup, that shit's messed up)

This is absolutely the right way to look at it. It's extremely annoying to see people called "cheats" when they breach a rule (but take the penalty correctly).

what a strange thread. IMO - every single person out there is a single. whether they start the round that way, finish that way, or get joined up with a predetermined group at the beginning or an ad hoc group during the round. you only have the right to a single slot that you paid for. If someone plays alone and considers the time slot to be their personal they should buy all 4 slots (ditto for a 2some or 3 some). I play single all the time - sometimes it's not busy and I'm fortunate to play alone. sometimes it's busy and I'm fortunate to join others for the round (usually I initiate, but sometimes I'm assigned if the starter is good at his job so I don't have to). I'll play any way I like for my experience - extra ball occasionally even - my personal criteria is only if I keep pace with the group in front of me. I scan the groups in front and behind when it's busy. If there are openings the might combine two groups into a 4-some, I'll tell those groups and suggest combining, play through or whatever to facilitate. Not very often is this a situation but if it is, it's usually a single that can leap frog to a 2 or 3 way. It's not rocket science. Be courteous and have fun and meet people. Sounds like there are a LOT of snotty clubs and people out there. Frankly, I have met almost none of them...

That's me, but hopefully more than 40 rounds. But even that is across over 20 courses. I'll try it. ..... once the snow melts.....

So.....no discussion on the book itself. But the title.......that's an entire thread. (I don't have it, don't - plan to buy it, so I have no valuable input here either)

Pitch or chip from a perfect lie super close or even greenside that you stub in the dirt or double hit. Gets in your head... I really do need to take some lessons and review pitch/chip thread vids again. My technique is complete crap.

Was every single Big 12 Bowl game against a better seeded opponent? So that's a nod to strength of conference by the selection committee. On the other hand................Big12 pretty much fell on our faces this bowl season - against those specific teams, 1 out of 6 is was a disaster. It was so bad, that I only mildly celebrated when Baylor lost. Big10 matched up a bit more even handed, but still. On a side note - I was really rooting for Wisconsin, right up until the on field fights, then the hell with it. teach the kids to act like professionals. Living in Minnesota here - watch most of that one in local restaurant. Gophers were FIRED up on field. Good for them.

I really don't think we even see any aspect of leadership on the TV coverage, frankly. That happens behind the scenes and is part of the preparations and execution. It's not motivational speeches and just playing assignments. Nor is it necessarily a win or loss either (that's kind of a lazy executive approach to assessing leadership and it's a terrible injustice when it happens, IMO). It's the comfort of the teammates with each other, it's the commitment to win, it's how everyone meshes and is able to contribute and grow. Clips of the guys playing don't say much.....maybe watching how they interact with each other is something we can see on TV that's real I guess. Any discussions here about leadership (pro or con) is pretty silly. I have to take the team members' words on it. It's the only real evidence we are given.

This one was great TV. I stayed up late the last three nights in a row watching. Serious course - looks like so much fun. And the International team did fantastic and some of the young talent there is impressive. Tiger saying "My boys" over and over again - this one was special for him - he's always loved the big team events.

slow in life, slow everywhere else. personally? Frequently I just try to get on sometimes without calling ahead. So I have to be fast - ("can you be at the tee immediately"....."absolutely" I actually don't mind slow or fast as long as it's moving. The worst for me is to be with a slow player "in" my group and a fast group behind me. I hate getting pinched like that. Some people you just can't speed up and then I'm self conscious about that group behind me. Even if they see me hitting and then walking immediately to my next shot and then fidgeting and waiting for slowpoke to hit...... (eventually I'll try to let them through and join them if they have room....I have no loyalty to a slow stranger I was placed with)

the team won't - they are pros (No matter how hard the Golf Channel will try to cash in this by not letting it die) so in your post - here's one of BallStriker's quotes " He broke the rules and received the appropriate penalty." Wow, how horribly forgiving can a guy be? as for chile - the quote you provided was about the President's Cup team, so not even on the topic really

I think this is the fairest statement. Whether on purpose or accidental, the action itself improved the lie. So 2 strokes for doing on purpose, or 2 strokes for being unaware and careless in a situation where a pro should be VERY aware. Doesn't really matter on the intent. I don't really see any reason in that tournament at that time for him to even chance penalty strokes, he was playing very well and on track to be in a position to win.

Probably a PhD in comparative women's studies and Social Environmental Hysteria from a California college. Fill them with scotch and we are talking. I need a ball retrieval tool, a clean rag, a drill and a straw.

If the OP has the time, it's not hard to do a GR&R and find out how good his scale is. Always more accurate than just reading the print on the package. Of course, if the display doesn't go deeper than a 1/10th, then......

well.........there you go....

But they are different, and performance wise it just might not actually be different enough for us to tell. I remember tape cassettes coming out at the end with tons of new technology. The more expensive had less noise and it was measured and proveable. However, the human ear could absolutely not discern the differences between the top tiers of tapes even though they cost significantly better for 'the best' performance...... Yet people still insisted they could hear it, and audiophiles were insistent on only buying the top end tapes...... Same psychology here even if the examples aren't perfectly analogous.... People buy what they want, providing a market for that isn't an ethical issue. If I want to buy a different ball because of cosmetic differences and my ego thinks the V1x is for a higher swing speed hero......that's on me.

Even if they were the same ball, I don't think there woul be an ethics problem at all. I like them too. I find more of them than any other ball and play them exclusively. I even reverted to them when it got cold this year and decided I like them better than the 'cold temp' ball I had selected the last couple years. As usual - it's 'mostly' me, not the gear. I'm not good enough.

I got on a roll. Hard to stop. (thanks for the info) Perhaps Bryson might be able to tell us the differences that are there, but inside of the natural variation of a human swing, but still used in the choice of ball...... but if there isn't a tangible performance diff - they need to go to the drawing board, or drop a line......Else they aren't as brilliant as I thought. Still, it's a huge improvement over, say, Callaway, with more models than I can count.....

Nothing.....darn it......I shot nothing...... As much as a foot by Sunday coming and all starting tomorrow. BUT, with the new house, I have high ceilings in the basement. The mat and net are up again and I can practice shanking all winter indoors. Pictures soon to the other thread. (now, and then later once I'm done refinishing the basement.)

Yeah - and they can do it with the same ball and only 2 choices (I'm ignoring the NXT's and Tour etcs.....in this) AND charge the max. These guys are brilliant. They really know how to leverage "people" that operate on 'feel' and assumptions.

"producing" - you mean stamping the same balls with two different labels - literally the difference of having an 'x' or not. that cost adder is as near to zero as it gets. "promoting" - you mean when each commercial talks about both and they don't ever run separate commercials for each model - brilliant, every commercial sells both and appeals to giving a customer a 'choice'. It's marketing - the competition has tons of models that 'claim' to perform differently - they have to be able to provide parity or lose business to them. but providing an illusion of choice, Titleist can claim more business from those that think this matters. AND it's only 2 choices, but that's enough. Look at their site (the ball fitting application - essentially, "how much money you got?" and "do you swing fast?" - if you have money they go to the ProV/x pair instead of the low cost balls - then the next question will assess your ego to offer the 'x' or not), when the questions are asked about a 'woman's' ball, or a senior ball, they still direct people to the ProV.......saying it's good for that also. It's about very tight distributions (sigma is more important than mean) - if they do that well, the one size DOES fit all. But people won't believe that, so stamp them. You just as well ask - "do you like black or silver boxes?" It's masterful. As for people that care? - I will never question the placebo effect for coordination and focus based activities..... so give them something to encourage more confidence. It must have just killed them to start offering yellow.

I like they focus on the individuals, not the groups, but there's a lot of potential overlap there to figure out. If it's not absolutely clearly one person, the whole group needs to watch closely to see who contributes and who is trying to keep up. Your second quote that a player is on a list...I'm not a fan of that. The card is signed off after a round. A single round. So what a person does the previous round, or previous 10 rounds, or a career prior to that round shouldn't be a factor in a penalty. time them all - no cherry picking. If a player has a pattern of behavior, then the tour should be digging at the player outside of any single round of a single tournament. Seems like PR - I'll believe it if we see evidence of unbiased but equal and prompt enforcement.