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So I'm sittin' here reading Golf magazine and i'm going through "Ask the Rule Guy."

Someone explains to the rule guy that his friend double hits his ball from time to time, but the other day he TRIPLE hit it. The rules guy explains that the friend can only be given a 2 stroke penalty, then he goes on to say that even if he hit the ball a baker's dozen in one swing...it's still only a two stroke penalty.

That got me thinking, hypothetically, if someone could pop the ball up off the tee and bounce it off the club face ALL THE WAY to the hole...would it still be just a two stroke penalty? Or would there be some sort of rule against this? Obviously it would be dumb, and you'd be taking a big risk, but if someone perfected it....

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So I'm sittin' here reading Golf magazine and i'm going through "Ask the Rule Guy."

Someone explains to the rule guy that his friend double hits his ball from time to time, but the other day he TRIPLE hit it. The rules guy explains that the friend can only be given a 2 stroke penalty, then he goes on to say that even if he hit the ball a baker's dozen in one swing...it's still only a two stroke penalty.

That got me thinking, hypothetically, if someone could pop the ball up off the tee and bounce it off the club face ALL THE WAY to the hole...would it still be just a two stroke penalty? Or would there be some sort of rule against this? Obviously it would be dumb, and you'd be taking a big risk, but if someone perfected it....

So you're wondering if Tiger kept bouncing the ball in large advances forward on his wedge, similar to what he does in commercials or while practicing, if he could legitimately get the ball to the green from the tee on a Par 5 and putt for eagle after his 500 yard circus act?

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So you're wondering if Tiger kept bouncing the ball in large advances forward on his wedge, similar to what he does in commercials or while practicing, if he could legitimately get the ball to the green from the tee on a Par 5 and putt for eagle after his 500 yard circus act?

Exactly.

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Exactly.

The Rules cover that too.

I think it's right in Rule 1 with language regarding a "serious breach" or something that results in a DQ.

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So you're wondering if Tiger kept bouncing the ball in large advances forward on his wedge, similar to what he does in commercials or while practicing, if he could legitimately get the ball to the green from the tee on a Par 5 and putt for eagle after his 500 yard circus act?

That is totally wrong and just silly.

He would be putting for double eagle, not eagle. ;-)

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But then again, what the hell do I know?

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He would be putting for double eagle, not eagle.

One shot and one penalty is two, putting for three.

Rule 1-2, btw:

1-2. Exerting Influence on Ball

A player or Caddie must not take any action to influence the position or the movement of a ball except in accordance with the Rules.

(Removal of loose impediment — see Rule 23-1.)

(Removal of movable obstruction — see Rule 24-1.)

*Penalty for Breach of Rule 1-2: Match play — Loss of hole; Stroke play — Two strokes.

*In the case of a serious breach of Rule 1-2, the Committee may impose a penalty of disqualification.

Note:A player is deemed to have committed a serious breach of Rule 1-2 if the Committee considers that his act of influencing the position or movement of the ball has allowed him or another player to gain a significant advantage or has placed another player, other than his Partner, at a significant disadvantage.

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So I'm sittin' here reading Golf magazine and i'm going through "Ask the Rule Guy."

Someone explains to the rule guy that his friend double hits his ball from time to time, but the other day he TRIPLE hit it. The rules guy explains that the friend can only be given a 2 stroke penalty, then he goes on to say that even if he hit the ball a baker's dozen in one swing...it's still only a two stroke penalty.

That got me thinking, hypothetically, if someone could pop the ball up off the tee and bounce it off the club face ALL THE WAY to the hole...would it still be just a two stroke penalty? Or would there be some sort of rule against this? Obviously it would be dumb, and you'd be taking a big risk, but if someone perfected it....

That is the exact same thing I thought when I read that.

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So I'm sittin' here reading Golf magazine and i'm going through "Ask the Rule Guy."

Someone explains to the rule guy that his friend double hits his ball from time to time, but the other day he TRIPLE hit it. The rules guy explains that the friend can only be given a 2 stroke penalty, then he goes on to say that even if he hit the ball a baker's dozen in one swing...it's still only a two stroke penalty.

That got me thinking, hypothetically, if someone could pop the ball up off the tee and bounce it off the club face ALL THE WAY to the hole...would it still be just a two stroke penalty? Or would there be some sort of rule against this? Obviously it would be dumb, and you'd be taking a big risk, but if someone perfected it....

Just a clarification.  The Rule is 1 PS no matter how many times you hit it.  1PS plus the actual stroke for a total of two strokes.

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John

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Each time he moves his club to hit the ball he is making a stroke (see definition). In addition he would be in breach of 14-5 every time.

That would require too much effort on my part.  I would just DQ him under 1-1 and 33-7 and be done with it. :naughty:

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John

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turtleback Super Member

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One shot and one penalty is two, putting for three.

Rule 1-2, btw:

Duh!!!  Silly me.

But then again, what the hell do I know?

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You guys have way too much time on your hands for stupid threads like this

Sorry, but I see value to something like this.

The challenge in understanding the rules is in being able to apply them to unusual situations.  The situation described in the OP is pretty outlandish, but the process of working through to the correct ruling demonstrates how the rules can be properly applied in any event.

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw
Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

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Sorry, but I see value to something like this. The challenge in understanding the rules is in being able to apply them to unusual situations.  The situation described in the OP is pretty outlandish, but the process of working through to the correct ruling demonstrates how the rules can be properly applied in any event.

Agree! Deductive reasoning rocks!!!!

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