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Just starting playing golf this year and everytime I drive a bucket or even half bucket of balls at the range my right elbow is in major pain. Its not in the elbow itself but like on the very ouside edges on both sides of my forearm (outside edges of the crease in the elbow). Its not as bad when I play a round because I'm not swinging as often but it does bother me when doing that as well. Is this caused from golfers elbow, just needing to get more used to it, bad swing pratices or possibly related to something else? I'm in really good shape for being 42 (5'10", 160lbs) and have never had pain in this area before.

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I don't know if it's golfer's elbow.

I had golfer's elbow (both elbows) in the middle of my golf season this year and it was horrifically painful. The insides of my elbows were in pain and whenever I'd try to move them, they'd hurt like hell.

This was all diagnosed by my doctor, so I'm not sure if you have the same thing, but you might want to get it checked out.
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I have similar flare ups on occasion. Seem to happen most often in the winter. Mine was diagnosed as tennis elbow which is basically tendonitis. My doctor prescribed anti-inflammatory drugs (ibuprofen) and an elbow support strap line this http://www.supportsusa.com/arm/tennis_elbow/index.htm
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get a quick look from a pro, if I swing wrong (chicken wing) i have some discomfort like I hit my funnybone. If I keep my elbow tucked close to my body I'm fine, but this is a one plane swing vs a two so if you are two plane it may be different.

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Just starting playing golf this year and everytime I drive a bucket or even half bucket of balls at the range my right elbow is in major pain. Its not in the elbow itself but like on the very ouside edges on both sides of my forearm (outside edges of the crease in the elbow). Its not as bad when I play a round because I'm not swinging as often but it does bother me when doing that as well. Is this caused from golfers elbow, just needing to get more used to it, bad swing pratices or possibly related to something else? I'm in really good shape for being 42 (5'10", 160lbs) and have never had pain in this area before.

I had this 4 or 5 years ago and it is painful! It is a form of tendonitis and the only way you can get better is to take anti-inflammatories and rest. It took the whole winter off-season for mine to get better.

Make sure you stretch your arms properly before you starts to swing. My golfing buddy who happens to be a physical therapist showed me some stretches that are part of my routine now. Hold the offending arm forward in front of you, bend your hand upwards at the wrist, and with your other hand, pull back gently on the fingertips and hold for 5 seconds. You should feel all that connective tissue around your elbow stretch nicely. Next, with your arm still pointing forwards, bend your hand downwards, and with you other hand, push the bent hand towards you.
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When you practice, do you hit off of a mat, or grass? Whenever I have to hit off of a mat, that happens to me. Dont know why though.
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Just starting playing golf this year and everytime I drive a bucket or even half bucket of balls at the range my right elbow is in major pain. Its not in the elbow itself but like on the very ouside edges on both sides of my forearm (outside edges of the crease in the elbow). Its not as bad when I play a round because I'm not swinging as often but it does bother me when doing that as well. Is this caused from golfers elbow, just needing to get more used to it, bad swing pratices or possibly related to something else? I'm in really good shape for being 42 (5'10", 160lbs) and have never had pain in this area before.

When you practice, do you hit off of a mat, or grass? Whenever I have to hit off of a mat, that happens to me. Dont know why though.

I had a bad case of tendonitis in my elbow this spring, something I've never had before. I went to a sports med. doctor and he found out I had been hitting a lot of balls off mats at the driving range over the winter. He just shook his head and said to quit hitting off the mats. He told me that he sees several cases a year of golfers with tendonitis in their elbows or wrists from hitting off mats. His explanation was that the mats don't "give" like taking a divot on grass and at impact you get a shorter but more intense shock to your elbow and wrist joints on mats vs. grass.

I quit hitting off mats and just hit off grass after that. Within a month or so the pain was gone and it hasn't come back. I'm convinced mats are the spawn of the devil. I won't ever hit off them again. On a golf related note you also don't get very good feedback from mats on how you're striking the ball since you never take a divot. You can be hitting good shots off the mat but discover once you get on the course that you grooved a swing that results in "fat" shots. Hitting a griver or fairway woods off a rubber tee is problematic too as you can't adjust it the same height as you might normally play. Bah. Mats.

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Sounds like artificial turf elbow to me. When I started I had the exact same thing. Cold winters didn't help it either. When I cut back on artificial turf practice it basically went away. If possible I would look for a place that you can hit off of grass, even if it mostly relegates you to chipping or short pitching. You get the proper feedback as well as saving your elbows from wear and tear. When you don't have a close range that has grass it's tough though. When I absolutely have to hit off mats I do it with a short tee, mix it up with drives and soft chips and pitches and generally try not to bash a whole bucket off the mat. Also IMO you should only hit one 60 ball bucket and it should take no less than 60 minutes to go through it. Use the time for pre-shot routine, experimentation and "think" time. Somethimes less is actually more. Make each practice shot as if it is a real shot because it is.
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Do any of you guys experience golfers/tennis elbow? Do you use a brace? What stretches/exercises/warm-ups do you do to help this?

I'm experiencing this for the first time and although the pain is bearable, it's there.

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I used to go to a physical therapist for tennis elbow. Stay off of it was the best advice and to take something for minor swelling. BTW, what is a +40 Index?

a +40 would be, at least, mildy impressive

. but i second birdieman's advice. Staying off of it is by far the best thing you can do. Try to cease any activity that aggravates that area. You can pick up some over the counter naproxen or ibuprofen (stay off the ibuprofen if you may have heart problems) to help a bit with the pain and some swelling. if it gets bad, you want to head to a doctor. He'll likely give you some corticosteroid injections which will significanly help out with the swelling. Likely though, it'll go away on its own if you stay off of it.

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I have that problem pretty bad in my left arm. I wear one of those Aircast things they make for tennis elbow. It seems to help quite a bit. It's not really a brace. It wraps around my forearm and has a little plastic air sac built into it that's supposed to absorb the shock at impact. If I play a round without it my elbow hurts a whole lot worse afterward than when I wear it. They only cost a few dollars. Well worth giving it a try IMO.

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Elbow pain is usually the result of problems in the wrist, tricep, or shoulder (or all of them). For example, the wrist wrist is very tight, so the elbow compensates by becoming "mobile." The elbow, however, is made for stability, not mobility, so pain and injury happens.

You need to stretch your wrists, shoulders, and triceps. Search google for how to do this. Also search "shoulder dislocation exercise" for a nice shoulder stretch.

I'd stay away from pain killers and braces. You need to treat the cause of the pain, not the pain itself. Ice is okay though. Only after exercise and never for more than 15 minutes.
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How painful is it? If you had to rate it on a scale of 1-10, where 1 is "just annoying" and 10 is "so painful I can barely use my arm", what would you rate it?

The reason I ask it this: if the pain is high, say above a 6, then you definitely need to rest first along with NSAID's like Ibuprofen or Aleve. Ice it daily, or several times a day if possible, for about 10-20 minutes at a time. As cold as you can stand without getting frostbite.

If the pain is more mild, say a 1,2, or 3, then you should treat with NSAID's and ice but start a regimen of physical therapy to strengthen the affected area. Google "golfer's elbow" and "tennis elbow" and you can find some good strengthening regimens.

If the pain is in the middle, its a tougher call, but my advice would be to rest for a week or two with NSAID's and ice, then start the training regimen while continuing the ice.

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If it is only minor pain and you can tolerate it, try taking ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin) or naproxen (Aleve) before you start. That will decrease the inflammation so it is not as painful the next day.

If it is very painful, rest it for at least a couple of weeks (may take up to a few months to heal completely). If it comes back, get some lessons because there could be something wrong with your grip or swing that is causing it.
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well doc gave me some anti-inflamitories as well as some vicodin. i popped a vicodin before 18 over the weekend and shot a 85 ... a personal best.

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well doc gave me some anti-inflamitories as well as some vicodin. i popped a vicodin before 18 over the weekend and shot a 85 ... a personal best.

excuse my two cents...but vicodin with an additional anti-inflammatory puts you at high risk for a peptic ulcer. Vicodin already contains paracetamol as is, and the combination of a narcotic with an anti-inflammatory that isn't paracetamol is a bad idea. .....and did your doctor not give you a cortisone shot? The jump to vicodin is a pretty absurd measure. Your doctor may have given what he believes you need....however i'd recommend getting a second opinion from another local doctor regarding treating your elbow. Either way, if the pain is so bad that your doctor prescribed vicodin....you very likely tore a tendon or fractured your elbow. Whatever it is...you shouldnt be playing golf. Simple inflammation can be treated easily...if you push it...you'll be left with pain for a very long time.

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