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dragonflyin Well Established Member

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How often do you guys check your loft and lie angles for your irons? Spent $30 bucks at Golf Galaxy a couple of weeks ago to have them checked. I was completely surprised that my set was all over the place. Lie angles were anywhere from standard to 3* flat. Lofts were a couple degrees to a club weak. Had them all reset to 2* flat, and standard lies, and I had noticeable ball-striking improvement this week (not to mention distance gain). Highly recommended if you play often, but neglected your regular check-ups.

Driver:  R11S 10.5°, Fairway Woods:  909 F2 15.5°, Hybrid:  G10 21°

Irons:  Tour Preferred MC 4-P, Wedges:  Vokey SM 52.08, 56.10, 60.04

Putter:  Tei3 Newport II / Circa 62 #3, Ball:  Pro V1X / NXT Tour

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groovezilla79 Dedicated Member

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I really need to get mine done. When I had my RAC MBs a few years ago, I got it done every season. I've had my MP57's for almost 2 seasons and I haven't gotten it done at all. Ralph Maltby states that a lie angle that is off by even 1* can cause a PW to be as much as 20 feet off target.

Driver: taylormade.gif Tour Burner 9.5*
4 Wood: taylormade.gif200 Steel 16*
Irons: taylormade.gif Burner '09
Wedges: taylormade.gif RAC TP Satin 54*, 58*
Putter: odyssey.gif White Hot Tour #9  Ball: bridgestone.gif B330

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sean_miller Incredible Member

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Based on my current frequency, apparently I'm getting them done every 15 seasons, whether they need it or not!

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

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dragonflyin Well Established Member

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Looking at the divots of your irons can also indicate whether or not the lie is off..

Driver:  R11S 10.5°, Fairway Woods:  909 F2 15.5°, Hybrid:  G10 21°

Irons:  Tour Preferred MC 4-P, Wedges:  Vokey SM 52.08, 56.10, 60.04

Putter:  Tei3 Newport II / Circa 62 #3, Ball:  Pro V1X / NXT Tour

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JWL1957 Dedicated Member

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I have played forged clubs for 30 years and owned a loft and lie machine as a hobbiest clubmaker for a good part of those years. What I have found is that loft and lie changes very little for the weekend player who does not abuse his clubs. For the the guy who is a practice nut, and pounds alot of balls?...... he might want to check them once in a while. The milder the steel..... the more they can change.
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JWL1957 Dedicated Member

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How often do you guys check your loft and lie angles for your irons? Spent $30 bucks at Golf Galaxy a couple of weeks ago to have them checked. I was completely surprised that my set was all over the place. Lie angles were anywhere from standard to 3* flat. Lofts were a couple degrees to a club weak. Had them all reset to 2* flat, and standard lies, and I had noticeable ball-striking improvement this week (not to mention distance gain). Highly recommended if you play often, but neglected your regular check-ups.

Metal has grain and memory. If a stock set of irons are bent to a players preference...... they will over time try to resume their original pattern. Some clubs more than others in any given set. In this case...... they should be checked every now and then.

Be carefull about bringing your clubs to the big box retailers for repairs. Depending who is working..... gets the work, and some of them have no biz touching a loft and lie machine.
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yourpalsal

I took my Mizuno MP-52s in for a spring check-up and was somewhat shocked to learn how much they had moved in the two years since I bought them. Lofts averaged three degrees weaker than original specs, and lies averages FIVE degrees flatter than standard! I though the club maker must have lost his mind, but he's a reputable fellow. I took them to the range, and they felt great. Looking forward to seeing how they play on the course.

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xmanhockey7 Dedicated Member

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Never even considered it. I have Ping G10s with the red dot. I'm assuming they're correct.

 913 D2 8.5* with V2 66g stiff shaft

 910F 14.25 with Diamana stiff shaft

 i20 17, 20, and 23 hybrid 

 AP2 712 5-PW with Dynamic Gold S300 shaft

 54 and 60

 D66

 Tournament Edition 1600

 

 

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Laws of Woo Well Established Member

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Hmm... This is something I've never even thought about doing. I've played hard cast clubs for years, and only picked up my CB1s last year. Didn't realize they could bend that much so quick.

In the Ogio Chamber Cart Bag w/ Ogio X4 Synergy Push Cart: Driver: Adams Super LS 7.5* w/ Harrison Striper H2 60x Fairway: Adams Tight Lies 16* Fairway Wood w/ Harrison Mugen Black 70x Irons: Adams Idea Pro Black CB1 Irons w/ Project X 6.0 Flighted Steel Shafts (3-PW) Wedges: Yururi Raw Gekku w/ Project X 6.0 Flighted Steel Shafts (53, 57, & 61) Putter: Never Compromise Gambler Straight Ball: Srixon Z-Star/Z-Star XV Tour Yellow GPS: Garmin Approach G6 Shoes: True Linkswear

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Mr3Wiggle Great Member

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Originally Posted by Laws of Woo

Hmm... This is something I've never even thought about doing. I've played hard cast clubs for years, and only picked up my CB1s last year. Didn't realize they could bend that much so quick.

Those artificial turf mats bend them faster.

Driver:  Callaway Diablo Octane 9.5*
3W:  Callaway GBB II 12.5*, 5W:  Callaway Diablo 18* Neutral
3H:  Callaway Razr X, 4H:  Callaway Razr X
5-PW:  Callaway X Tour
GW:  Callaway X Tour 54*, SW:  Callaway X Tour 58*
Putter:  Callaway ITrax, Scotty Cameron Studio Design 2, Ping Anser 4

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Stretch Super Member

Stretch

Generally do it twice a year while I'm regripping. Might as well.

Stretch.

"In the process of trial and error, our failed attempts are meant to destroy arrogance and provoke humility." -- Master Jin Kwon

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sean_miller Incredible Member

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Originally Posted by Stretch

Generally do it twice a year while I'm regripping. Might as well.

That's a lot of regripping.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.

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GolfBear Well Established Member

GolfBear

I just had my clubs checked.  I've been playing the same KZG forged irons for 12 years.   They're made with a relatively soft 1030 carbon steel.   3 of the irons were off on the lie by 1 degree....that's it.

I was actually quite surprised and pleased.

Driver: VRS 9.5 degrees

Fairway Wood: 13 degrees
Hybrid: A3 19 degrees

Irons: i20's  Yellow dot

Wedges: Vokey's 52, 56 & 60

Putter: 2 ball

Ball: Penta; ProV

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Mr. Desmond Super Member

Mr. Desmond

If you hit off any mats and grass with regularity, check your divots and flight pattern carefully, and get to a calibrated loft/lie machine at least once a year, more if you play and practice a lot. I should add, the more you hit off mats, the more frequent the check.

Ping G400 Max 9/TPT Shaft, TEE EX10 Beta 4, 5 wd, PXG 22 HY, Mizuno JPX919F 5-GW, TItleist SM7 Raw 55-09, 59-11, Bettinardi BB39

 

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rustyredcab Great Member

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Two reasons that I limit my club choices on the range -- 1. don't want to scratch club face with the rocks I hit for range balls, and 2. I practice and warmup on matts and hardpan often and don't want to bend all my clubs.

I limit most range work to my GW, 8-I, 6-I and woods.

Russ - Student of the Moe Norman swing as taught by the pros at - http://moenormangolf.com

Titleist 910 D3 8.5* w/ Project X shaft/ Titleist 910F 15* w/ Project X shaft

Cobra Baffler 20* & 23* hybrids with Accra hybrid shafts

Mizuno MP-53 irons 5Iron-PW AeroTech i95 shafts stiff and soft stepped once/Mizuno MP T-11 50.6/56.10/MP T10 60*

Seemore PCB putter with SuperStroke 3.0

Srixon 2012 Z-Star yellow balls/ Iomic Sticky 2.3, X-Evolution grips/Titleist Lightweight Cart Bag---

extra/alternate clubs: Mizunos JPX-800 Pro 5-GW with Project X 5.0 soft-stepped shafts

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michaeljames92 Great Member

michaeljames92

Originally Posted by Stretch

Generally do it twice a year while I'm regripping. Might as well.

Holy crap. I have had my white multi's on my AP2's since January last year. They cost like 170 including fitting. Ugghh

Driver: Taylormade R11 set to 8*
3 Wood: R9 15* Motore Stiff
Hybrid: 19° 909 H Voodoo
Irons: 4-PW AP2 Project X 5.5
52*, 60* Vokey SM Chrome

Putter: Odyssey XG #7

Ball: Titleist Pro V1x

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TourSpoon Super Member

TourSpoon

Whenever you buy clubs they should be checked and adjusted as a condition of the sale. I have never seen a set spec correctly out of the box. I have mine checked every 12-18 months after that.

Cobra LTDx 10.5* | Big Tour 15.5*| Rad Tour 18.5*  | Titleist U500 4-23* | T100 5-P | Vokey SM7 50/8* F, 54/10* S, SM8 58/10* S | Scotty Cameron Squareback No. 1 | Vice Pro Plus  

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Stretch Super Member

Stretch

Originally Posted by sean_miller

That's a lot of regripping.

Play year round. Use the clubs every day. Hot enough to have sweaty hands even in the winter. Grips get pretty skanky in six months.

Stretch.

"In the process of trial and error, our failed attempts are meant to destroy arrogance and provoke humility." -- Master Jin Kwon

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