NCAA Football 2019

[iacas]

6 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

Ryan Day at half, ‘ we had that catch in the end zone taken away.’ What an ass. Disgraceful. Replay CLEARLY showed receiver didn’t have control and the ball hit the ground. Shows his poor integrity.

I didn't see it, but:

• A coach is always going to frame things in the way that favors his team. That isn't "integrity."
• If they called it a TD, then review overturned it… it was "taken away."

[Vinsk]

35 minutes ago, iacas said:

A coach is always going to frame things in the way that favors his team.

Nope. That’s when the call is questionable. The coach will of course rule in his favor. This was an obvious incomplete pass and to complain that it was unfair is poor sportsmanship. Period. 
I get it Erik. You’re gonna go against me in this thread no matter what. But don’t just take shots like that that hold no water. The video was clear. To continue to complain is shitty.
 

Edited December 29, 2019 by Vinsk

[iacas]

Just now, Vinsk said:

Nope. That’s when the call is questionable. The coach will of course rule in his favor. This was an obvious incomplete pass and complain as it was unfair is poor sportsmanship. Period.

I think it's obvious you just hate Ohio State.

Coaches always frame things in the way that favors his team. Even on obvious situations.

P.S. I had to look up who Ryan Day was, and I couldn't care less who wins any of these games.

[Vinsk]

2 minutes ago, iacas said:

I think it's obvious you just hate Ohio State.

Coaches always frame things in the way that favors his team. Even on obvious situations.

P.S. I had to look up who Ryan Day was, and I couldn't care less who wins any of these games.

Right...but you bother to come in and get a dig on me on a guy you don’t know, about a play you didn’t see, from a game you don’t care about. Got it.

[iacas]

1 minute ago, Vinsk said:

Right...but you bother to come in and get a dig on me on a guy you don’t know, about a play you didn’t see, from a game you don’t care about. Got it.

Because your posts in this topic have been illogical, and I'm not generally a fan of illogical. (And because my feed/stream shows all new posts, and so I generally open and skim every comment/post).

[dennyjones]

2 hours ago, Double Mocha Man said:

No love for the Lions?  Eh, they could have played their subs and beaten LSU.

The Lions are playing their subs.   They have 22 players that are not playing because of injuries.  

[Vinsk]

6 minutes ago, iacas said:

Because your posts in this topic have been illogical, and I'm not generally a fan of illogical. (And because my feed/stream shows all new posts, and so I generally open and skim every comment/post).

Even in football if a replay shows a clear and undebatable outcome, coaches don’t continue to bitch they were screwed. Questionable yes, obvious no. He looked like an ass. It wasn’t a TD taken away. They scored with a questionable catch so it was reviewed by the refs and clearly showed on the giant big screen in front of millions where even both announcers and the booth official agreed it was an incomplete pass. Day was an ass. Period.

[Double Mocha Man]

8 minutes ago, dennyjones said:

The Lions are playing their subs.   They have 22 players that are not playing because of injuries.  

As a Seahawk fan I am pulling for your Lion subs to beat Green Bay.

[iacas]

Just now, Vinsk said:

Even in football if a replay shows a clear and undebatable outcome, coaches don’t continue to bitch they were screwed. Questionable yes, obvious no. He looked like an ass. It wasn’t a TD taken away. They scored with a questionable catch so it was reviewed by the refs and clearly showed on the giant big screen in front of millions where even both announcers and the booth official agreed it was an incomplete pass. Day was an ass. Period.

"They scored" and then "it was reviewed" and the call was changed. Yes? Those are the facts?

Then the TD was "taken away." Simple fact, man.

Why are you so anti-OSU?

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After Dobbins' 64-yard scamper nearly ended in another long touchdown run, the Buckeyes' running back was nearly able to finish the drive with a touchdown on a diving catch on 3rd & Goal, but after the play was initially ruled a touchdown, it was overturned after video review. Ohio State had to settle for another field goal in the red zone.

This meets the definition of "taken away." The refs signaled TD, then took it away.

P.S. If anything, I'm anti-OSU so I can tease those around me about it.

[Vinsk]

12 minutes ago, iacas said:

"They scored" and then "it was reviewed" and the call was changed. Yes? Those are the facts?

Then the TD was "taken away." Simple fact, man.

Why are you so anti-OSU?

This meets the definition of "taken away." The refs signaled TD, then took it away.

P.S. If anything, I'm anti-OSU so I can tease those around me about it.

If you want to play semantics yes. Most reasonable people don’t consider something stolen, or given undeservingly as something ‘taken away’ as in ‘cheated.’ 

[iacas]

9 minutes ago, Vinsk said:

If you want to play semantics yes. Most reasonable people don’t consider something stolen, or given undeservingly as something ‘taken away’ as in ‘cheated.’ 

If by semantics you mean “literally the definition…” then yes. 😛

[Vinsk]

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[saevel25]

Congrats to Clemson, they made one or two more plays than OSU did. If you have a shot at winning at the end of the 4th quarter then I have no complaints. It was Lawrence not throwing any interceptions to OSU throwing two interceptions. One was a great play by Clemson's LB, and the other was OSU WR running the wrong route at the end of the game. 

This was a great measuring stick for a Ryan Day program, go to toe-to-toe with this Clemson team. With the third ranked recruiting class in the nation, with 3 of the top 12 WR. Giving Fields more weapons to throw to. 

I am looking forward to the NC game. I am rooting for LSU, because I want Borrow (from Athens, OHIO!) to win it over Clemson. I got a bad feeling that LSU is going to run up against a team that can cover those WR better than any team they have faced this year. 

On a side not, can the committee not put in OU until they learn to play defense! I understand that OU had some major key players out of the game due to suspensions. Man, give another team a try next time. 

[Vinsk]

It was nice to see a close game. Like @saevel25 said Clemson pretty much won due to the turnovers 0-2 stat. Otherwise OSU lead in just about every other stat. That being said, I’m afraid the same fate OU suffered will come to Clemson. Everybody knows OU had an awful defense. But there just wasn’t anybody else. Certainly no B1G team, PAC-12 would’ve left the stadium at 72-0. Baylor from the Big 12? No way.  LSU is in a league of its own this year. 
 

Clemson will be humiliated in the NC. I don’t think the Clemson/OSU game resulted in the better team winning necessarily as ‘mistakes’ just aren’t a good measure to judge any team by. Statistically and eye test-wise  for me OSU has the edge. Despite it being a close game, I think OSU would give a much better challenge to LSU although mild-moderate. LSU takes the NC with ease.

[saevel25]

1 hour ago, Vinsk said:

Despite it being a close game, I think OSU would give a much better challenge to LSU although mild-moderate. LSU takes the NC with ease.

My only warning for LSU is watch out to what happened to Oregon after drumming FSU. They looked like world beaters, had a great QB, and got beat soundly in the NC game. 

Clemson has the 1st or 2nd best passing defense. I think Clemson finds more success on offense against LSU’s defense. 

[Vinsk]

1 minute ago, saevel25 said:

Clemson has the 1st or 2nd best passing defense.

Yes, but they achieved that stat from playing butterballs. How many top 25 teams did Clemson play to accumulate that stat? Boise St. looked real sharp hanging out there in the MWC. The West Coast junkies thought they were such a golden team. Then they played a mediocre team from a superior conference ( Washington ) and got their asses handed to ‘em 38-7.

I do agree Clemson has some bite despite OSU being their only worthy win to date. But let’s face it, it wasn’t a solid performance at all. It’s pretty impressive that the first four red zone appearances from OSU resulted in 3 FG’s. But I’m not sure that was stellar defense from Clemson any more than poor execution/play call from OSU.

LSU 35 Clemson 14

[saevel25]

ill take LSU - 36, Clemson - 30

[Carl3]

15 hours ago, Vinsk said:

The video was clear.

I saw that he had possession and then decided to reach for the goal line by extending his arms. Impact with the ground was after the TD. There was no "indisputable" video evidence IMO.