LIV Golf Now Closed?

[Archie Bunker]

I guess if the Saudis try to make a deal now with the PGA Tour, the Tour can just tell them to go pound sand.😆

[theworldengine]

LIV is too big to fail. Millions of fans worldwide and big name recognition with rahm bryson and AK. Pgat doesn't really want the boys back because their golden boy scottie will win much less.

[Moxley]

32 minutes ago, theworldengine said:

LIV is too big to fail. Millions of fans worldwide and big name recognition with rahm bryson and AK. Pgat doesn't really want the boys back because their golden boy scottie will win much less.

True, but I think the way the golf establishment have come together to do the intransigent PGAT's bidding for them and close LIV out of rankings, TV and such will ultimately win through, and the PGA will once hold all cards again. 

[iacas]

2 hours ago, theworldengine said:

LIV is too big to fail.

Well that's about the dumbest thing I've read today.

[DaveP043]

On 4/19/2026 at 11:39 AM, theworldengine said:

LIV is too big to fail. Millions of fans worldwide and big name recognition with rahm bryson and AK. Pgat doesn't really want the boys back because their golden boy scottie will win much less.

Based on everything I've read, LIV has continued to be propped up by cash from the PIF.  That's certainly where the start-up cash came from, and I'm not sure that the LIV tour has generated enough income to pay the players the kinds of prize money they've become used to without outside support.  Perhaps I underestimate the popularity if LIV outside of the USA.  I just think that Normal and the others overestimated the enthusiasm their "changes" would generate.  Shotgun starts, loud music everywhere, 3 rounds, and fields made up of a few legitimate top players along with some aging (but big-name) veterans and lots of younger relative unknowns, none of it resonated with me, personally.

 

[Yukari]

On 4/19/2026 at 9:39 AM, theworldengine said:

LIV is too big to fail. 

If history teaches us anything, this statement is blatantly false.  Nothing is too big to fail.

[trod]

On 4/19/2026 at 10:39 AM, theworldengine said:

LIV is too big to fail. Millions of fans worldwide and big name recognition with rahm bryson and AK. Pgat doesn't really want the boys back because their golden boy scottie will win much less.

PGA didn’t make Scottie their golden boy. He made his self number one by beating everybody that showed up, including Rahm, Bryson and all the other ones that were with the PGA and left. PGA offered them a way back, Koepka took it and Reeds on his way back. 

[theworldengine]

18 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

Based on everything I've read, LIV has continued to be propped up by cash from the PIF.  That's certainly where the start-up cash came from, and I'm not sure that the LIV tour has generated enough income to pay the players the kinds of prize money they've become used to without outside support.  Perhaps I underestimate the popularity if LIV outside of the USA.  I just think that Normal and the others overestimated the enthusiasm their "changes" would generate.  Shotgun starts, loud music everywhere, 3 rounds, and fields made up of a few legitimate top players along with some aging (but big-name) veterans and lots of younger relative unknowns, none of it resonated with me, personally.

 

I think the low TV ratings in the US is the only concerning revenue failure of LIV. but even the pga has struggled with ratings. They changed the pga championship schedule only because they couldn't get ratings in September. Liv has surpassed expectation with attendance figures and online engagement.  Also it is no coincidence that exhibition style golf such as TGL has taken off and garunteed money for players who dont make the cut at pga events.  There was a pga event last year (forget which one) that gave players walk up music on a par 3 lol!

[iacas]

26 minutes ago, theworldengine said:

I think the low TV ratings in the US is the only concerning revenue failure of LIV. but even the pga has struggled with ratings.

Dude, the two are not comparable. Furthermore, that's "the only concerning revenue failure"? Ha ha ha. They've lost billions of dollars.

26 minutes ago, theworldengine said:

They changed the pga championship schedule only because they couldn't get ratings in September.

No, that's not why.

26 minutes ago, theworldengine said:

Also it is no coincidence that exhibition style golf such as TGL has taken off and garunteed money for players who dont make the cut at pga events.

Uhhh, no.